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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Brought by a mix of Green absolutism, the Socialist party showing solidarity with Russia and Merkel following orders from her FSB handlers.


    End result is a problem for Germany, an economic one and especially environmental.


    Germany is a coal consumption behemoth.


    It's arguable that Europe and North America would be better off working on how to filter coal plants rather than going net zero at home.


    The story of carbon from the 1700s to 2100 is going to be all about Asian carbon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yup, theyre gonna seriously regret shutting down nuclear, it was always a dreadful decision....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,492 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Just wondering - but why won’t the 05 go for another few years?

    Is the metalwork starting to rot or anything?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah old Renault with the usual old Renault faults, i.e. electrical and electronical, theyre mounting now, and becoming more difficult to diagnose and fix, its progressively becoming more unreliable, its slowly getting to the point, i just cant trust it....

    metalwork is absolutely fine, should survive the next nuclear war, but as for the electrics and electronics....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,492 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    😂 yeah get ya! Those Renaults from that time weren’t great on the electrics.

    Would you be looking at replacing with an EV or a second hand petrol or what ya thinking ?

    If ya don’t mind answering of course.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yea, heard newer ones are far better in those departments

    ev would be nice, but tbh id say i ll be going down the road of a lovely clean diesel van, as i dont see too many ev vans around! i cant afford a new vehicle, and probably never will be either, and i suspect many other drivers are also in the same boat, so....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭ginger22


    And you would know, seen as you are an expert on all things "green".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


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    Coal use in German electricity generation dropped from over 50% in (about) 2010 with the increase in wind and solar sources but ALSO with an increase (to 17%) in gas fired generation. Coal use reached a minimum of (just below 25%) in 2021. It is now around 33%.

    A good thing they didn’t blowup all those mothballed stations.

    It’s not just France that Germany imports elements of nuclear power from. Germany is interconnected to Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Czech Republic who are all nuclear powered in varying degrees. Furthermore other countries they are connected to are often only trans-shipping power (often nuclear) from other countries notably Denmark (both East and West grids from Sweden), Luxembourg (from France) Poland (from Ukraine even now) and Slovakian nuclear is shipped in via the Czech Republic.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tougher rules on the way for Irish Water which will require significant investment to ensure waste water is treated to a much higher standard than at present




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    thank fcuk, we re desperate at this stage, our own potable system is at the end of its life, its down at least 50 years now, and we re getting regular mains bursts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,634 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    BEV batteries are actually much more resilient than people thought they would be.

    Manufacturers offering 8 year battery warranties mean they are really confident that those batteries will last significantly more than 8 years even with lots of fast charging

    If someone is careful to mind their battery it should last just as long as an ICE car. Also, batteries are getting better and getting cheaper over time, so by the time the battery is in need of replacement it'll be cheaper, and the new battery will be even more reliable. And you can take the old battery sell it to store some renewable energy

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,509 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Generally speaking it's rarely the parts that cost a fortune to repair any type of car, it's the cost of labour. Considering how unaccessible batteries are on most EVs they aren't and probably never will be cheap to replace. Another consideration is the SOC (state of charge) and minimum voltage level of a battery. If the voltage drops below a certain threshold it's only fit for recycling and has no monetary value outside of it's scrap value.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can see battery replacement options starting to come onstream for older models like the Leaf. You can pick up an old Leaf now for 5-7k with a 24kwh pack which had 200km when it was new and swap it out for one that will give you up to 300 to 400+km with rapid charging

    But battery replacement is only an issue for the first 1 or 2 generations of EV's. Most EV's built now will never need replacements



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  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A great improvement on the way for Galway city bus services. My only criticism is that it doesn't raise frequencies to the sub-10 min range but its getting there.

    The addition of 2 new 24 hr routes are very welcome




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Are you seriously suggesting that we not only heavily subsidise wind farms and the like, that we subsidise EVs and when their batteries are f***ed, that we fund battery replacements as well. This is really taking the proverbial piss :)

    What happened to the idea that the polluter PAYS? And batteries are big polluters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,509 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    That's DaCor, I was in need of a bit a laugh and that article provided it in spades.

    "When it comes to investment, we’re going to need a combination of private and public investment. It’s going to take many billions. Tens of billions, we believe."

    He said this investment will “pay for itself” because households and businesses pay for electricity.

    “A lot of public investment that we make is really important and really valuable, but it never turns into profit. Investment in energy will turn into profit."

    He said capital costs will be covered in the first few years and decades but after that it will become “profit making” as the energy will be exported.

    “It’s a huge economic opportunity as well,” he added.

    Mr Varadkar admitted that although the power is free, and all that is needed is the infrastructure, installing the grid will be a “huge job”.

    “I think what we’re going to need is a master grid, a super grid, for all of Europe. If you think of our grid that we have at the moment, like roads, we’re still running off local and regional roads.

    “Now we need to build European energy motorways essentially to harvest that offshore energy and bring it all over to Europe.”

    Transport Minister Eamon Ryan, who also attended the summit, said offshore wind electricity will mean lower bills for households.

    “It will be wind and solar at the centre of our system, that’s the cheapest power supply in the world. It’s also the most secure, it’s also the most cleanest, it’s also the one where we have the most advantage,” he said.

    “It’s going to be better for the consumer, it’ll be cheaper, the cost of the fuel is free - the wind comes from nature.”

    Taken directly from the article and not a Monty python sketch. It's going to cost 10's of billions but will pay for itself because, wait for it, households and businesses pay for electricity.

    We also need to build a master grid, that's right, you heard that right, a master grid no less. No costs provided for this hopium but it's needed.

    And then we have Mr Ryan just downright lying again about cheap reliable renewable energy.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He said this investment will “pay for itself” because households and businesses pay for electricity.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,321 ✭✭✭prunudo


    "Transport Minister Eamon Ryan, who also attended the summit, said offshore wind electricity will mean lower bills for households.

    “It will be wind and solar at the centre of our system, that’s the cheapest power supply in the world. It’s also the most secure, it’s also the most cleanest, it’s also the one where we have the most advantage,” he said."


    Those couple of paragraphs are too good not to repeat, straight from the horses mouth, we'll all get cheaper bills, because its the cheapest power in the world.


    As for Leo, the chief spoofer, we are so far behind our compatriots it's not even funny. There is so much support infrastructure that needs to be built before the turbines even start getting erected. The planning process is absurdly slow, and thats before you factor in appeals via aBp who are bogged with decisions being delayed over 18 months and counting.

    They love talking the talk, being there for the photo ops and getting the kudos from their buddies but words mean nothing without action.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,509 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Just for pig iron I went back and checked Eirgrids 10 year demand forecast from 2013. They were spot on with what they said peak demand would be for last year. So, demand forecast isn't an issue here. It's purely a lack of coherent policy from government which is hamstring our utility provider from meeting our energy demand.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agreed, if they sped things up we could roll out off shore wind generation a lot faster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,509 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Yeah, 10 years wasn't enough to plan for. Better really take the brakes off.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,634 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Yep. The battery will out-live the car most of the time.

    Way fewer moving parts and fewer service items mean EVs will last way longer than ICE with lower running costs

    None of those horrible oil changes every few thousand miles either

    With brake regen, consumables like disks and pads wear less too.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,634 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Your sense of humour betrays your lack of understanding.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Many in the offshore wind industry agree with you and I, we really must roll this out fast!

    RTE news : Call to speed up regulatory process for wind energy





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,509 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,634 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭ps200306


    Many in the offshore wind industry agree with you and I, we really must roll this out fast!

    Vultures still need a carcass to pick over. Hardly surprising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭patnor1011




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    At the rate of improvement of battery technology in about 5 years this will all be over.

    Model Y will be the biggest selling car globally this year ( that's car not electric car )

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

    Renewables, batteries and interconnectors will follow as the only financially sane way to proceed.

    Title should be changed to "Green" policies are the only way to save this country



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