No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Safe enough so applying your K in Autumn.

Listened to a "regenerative" podcast about a former pig farmer in Germany who's converted their 200ha farm to solely growing biomass for biogas for electricity generation.

I found the whole interview very sad. Especially so when it's now when Germany has ceased all electricity generation from their nuclear reactors.

Here was a farm producing food. Now it's growing everything for electricity production. But still it has to use diesel and tractor work to produce this electricity. Then till the soil and cart the digestate back out again. And the farmer entered into a 20 year electricity fixed priced scheme 10 years ago and now his costs are going up. He's at the beck and call of a power company who remotely turn the gas burners on and off depending on their sale price and demand on the grid.

....Eamon Ryan's vision for Ireland.

I take your point SMN, but looking at the panic about here last week for fodder, saving an extra 20% next year looks like good practice. Now, whether we need to put out as much extra fertiliser as they say or not is another discussion entirely.

Absolutely it would.

Didn't Eamon Ryan come out with the clanger of AD is a positive for Ireland since it will decrease livestock farming in Ireland?

Witch hunts/ pile ons me hole. One side can say what they want and when it's repeated back what they said it's a witch hunt. That's cancel culture.

And my beloved fertiliser industry. Ffs.

Are you going for election for the Greens?

Maybe you still see the good in people @Castlekeeper. What I'm seeing is a campaign which had zero backing at one time. Then the Eat lancet thing came out which has mostly been all debunked at this stage. And now you've ministers in Ireland on the bandwagon and now mayors of New York.

These guys don't want the status quo. They don't even want your little organic dairy farm Castlekeeper. You're garbage for them to buy and plant trees on and claim carbon credits for biodiversity and that feel good factor for companies.

Forget the twitter channel in the tweet above but the message is the message from the mayor of New York. He looks slow to me. But he's the mayor.

Those advocating this shyte are claiming victim status and this ad hominin crap. And they get away with it too. Look at your own message. It's crap rhetoric. No sense to it. It's like they went to the same school as the Russian media in Cambridge.

Money rules. And money is looking for increased tillage, poorer soils, poorer health in people, more pharmaceuticals, more control on farmers, livestock gone, processed plant shyte with ingredients from fertilizer companies, the fert companies ruling roost with on take/off take crap with no account of biology to government.

Maybe you should play the man a bit more CK because it's the man spewing rubbish. And in our country's case it's more often the women at similar who expect an easier to no reaction when spewing the same rubbish.

Message is the same though you're phucked CK.

Not farming related but anyone watching the RTE report on Gerry Hutch?

He was really some sort of a mafia boss. Even to his supposed inside information in the Irish Guards ranks and Spanish police. Very street and people smart of a person. A complete ********. But he seems to have been clever again re the trial. You'd wonder did he engineer it with Dowdall and Garda help? Two men free.

Grazing tax next CK. 😉

No biodiversity on livestock farms only on veg farms. Or did you not get the memo from the citizens assembly?

Eat less meat for biodiversity. (No you can't say that) Okay how's eat more plant based for biodiversity? Oh that's fine. It's a positive statement.

I'd nominate you CK for politics. 😎👍️

No thanks SMN, I've enough to be doing. Is playing the man your MO?

Tbh, mine was always man, ball, and all, when the opportunity arose, but I've mellowed with age.

The CA attempts to be a positive statement to be fair, but misses the heart of the matter imho and ends up either being ignored or ridiculed by most.

Promoting good, healthy, well produced food, and a bit less of it for most of us, might be a better direction.

The biodiversity would look after itself, if given half a chance.

Do they have to pay his costs now? I cant imagine Brendan Grehan is cheap but by jesus hes good!

Brendan asked for costs and hutch to be released immediately after verdict apparently.

Who was the emaciated looking lad walking with Hutch outside the court? I originally thought that he was Hutch until it became apparent that the Hairy lad was Hutch!

@_Brian - Do you swim cause apparently it's good for back/neck issues. I can't swim myself cause I've a problem with any volume of water larger than a puddle as I nearly drowned as a child. Having said that I've no problem going out in the lake boat fishing but I make sure to wear an automatic self inflatable life jacket.

When I played football I was told to walk lengths in the pool as recovery. It’s another option

Typical Leitrim man, always up to something