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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,321 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I think it's about 250k per year.

    It's pretty final not a reduction or adjustment.

    One day it will be there, next day gone forever.

    A few thousand elderly emigrants who never stood a chance in this country clobbered again in the heel of the hunt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I suppose good management would have considered to how to export their product to the Irish diaspora abroad and provide some kind of services outside the country on a commercial basis, though times have changed and I am quite quite sure that RTÉ with technology to hand are making money hand over first to such a diaspora.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    David McRedmond will not it seem become the next DG of RTÉ according to the Business Post, he was not shortlisted for the role. Not sure when his time as DG of An Post comes to an end but I imagine he won't be waving the flegs any longer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Kevin Bakhurst looks like the fore runner after he stepped down as Deputy DG on the arrival of Dee, basically he was pissed off as MD of News & CA and having been given the nominal role of Deputy DG he didn't get his wish to be a dead cert for DG in 2016, he then took what seems to be a massive pay cut to go back to Britain to join OfCom which he has since moved up in.... but and here's the real killer ... Should we be asking what was his involvement in the Jimmy Saville investigation by NewsNight? Did he get out just in the nick of time to join RTÉ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So the Board of RTÉ are having a conniption not about the above but about how they were left out of the decision making processes. The egos have landed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They more you read about the Board of RTÉ you realize that it is filled with egos and the more I think about that I guess that almost every board in the public sector is filled with such egos, so if you think change is possible in any part of the Irish public service you be sadly mistaken and some may continue to trot out "well, we need an agreement in whatever, whatever... before we progress as to what we want". Good luck everyone we are on a sinking ship and the captains are way off currently drink champers on the lifeboats they orders which are in reality 40 foot yachts with caviar on tap. And I am sure they were able to come up with some excuse to justify their spending.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Newsnight wasn't part of the remit of his position as director of the BBC News Channel, was it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You would think that as both the Deputy Head of the BBC Newsroom and the Head of the BBC Channel, and as potentially the person who schedule the BBC news channel's coverage of Saville's death that he might be high enough up the chain to have a fair idea of what had been planned and what had been postponed. (Along with the fact that NewsNight airs on the BBC News channel, as BBC TWO).

    It's a question that should have been put to him in 2012 and it should be put to him now in 2023. It is a clear question of trust, remember he took over as MD of News at RTÉ due to a vacancy cased by the controversial Missions To Prey programme.

    And along with the question why did he leave his position as Deputy DG of RTÉ in 2016? A role that had been vacant for 20 years or more and a role that hasn't been reinstated since his departure.

    As I say The Egos Have Landed.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Newsnight wasn't simulcast on the BBC News Channel when Bakhurst was there. Newsnight has its own editors, e.g. Nicholas Watt, Mark Urban. That means that the programme wasn't part of Bakhurst's remit and so what he knew at the time of Savile's death is beside the point. Newsnight started being simulcast on the News Channel recently following the axing of the newspaper preview programme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,321 ✭✭✭✭elperello




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Why? He's the Deputy Head of the BBC Newsroom and also Controller of the BBC news channel. Surely this strikes at the idea of Trust in your national public service broadcaster. This is a clear question to put to him if he is to become DG of RTÉ. We can all defend him but not to put the question to him is completely bizarre.

    What did he know of deferral of the newsnight programme on Jim Saville as Deputy Head of the BBC Newsroom and also Controller of the BBC news channel and why did he leave his role as Deputy DG and MD of News and Current Affairs RTÉ in 2016 following the selection of Dee Forbes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,321 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Thanks for your comprehensive reply.

    I see now that there is no link between KB and JS and that your question is about his knowledge of the deferral of a Newsnight programme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    How do you see no link?

    And what about the other question of his leaving RTÉ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,321 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I thought you said it was the deferral that you are questioning and that there was no link between KB and JS.

    Maybe I got it wrong, please clarify if you wish.

    I don't know anything about his leaving RTE.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't ask questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    To separate questions.

    How do you know he knew nothing about JS and NN? http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/reports/pdf/pollard/appendix_10.pdf

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    A verbal warning. Surely he'd have questioned such a significant verbal warning? As I say these are just questions I would be asking.

    Mr McRedmond would have to defend his time at TV3 / VMTV, and the Licence Fee Collection that An Post is in charge off.

    This is a big role that requires trust.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,321 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Sorry for the delay getting back.

    I don't know that he knew nothing.

    It doesn't say if he replied or said anything.

    I'd say he would have an answer to any question after all this time.

    I think McRedmond is out of the picture now.

    I agreee that we want someone we can trust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It's all ego. These questions were never asked, this is a huge problem with the process. IMO neither are suitable, but I think anyone could do the job after the last 14 years of NC and DF.

    It's ego on top of ego.

    McRedmond was seen as a sure thing because of An Post but they failed to consider his time at TV3/Virgin Media, his attacks on the Licence fee during that time and how during his time at An Post he failed to even look at their Licence fee collection methods.

    Backhurst has to be questioned on JS issue at the BBC, regardless last 11 years. While, questions have to be raised about why he was given the nominal role of Deputy DG and why he left on DF's arrival, Ego? And what if something happens does he exit because of his ego?

    Ego.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So K Bakhurst is giving out about the amount of time it took to hire the DG!

    7 years ago he applied for the role, he was acting DG until the appointment of Dee Forbes.

    He's worked in RTÉ he knows how long a piece of sting is !

    I have applied for lesser roles that have taken a couple month or more to actually get into the position from when I signed the contract, and I am sure everyone here has had someone say to them on a job interview process

    "You'd think they were employing you as President of the company"

    He's actually applying for the President of the Company.

    Anyone looking for an ego, plenty in RTÉ more coming soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    McRedmond has declared he is not interested in the position. Thank god.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Bakhurst is Back, former Deputy DG and MD of News at RTÉ, is going make RTÉ hurt, but not really he passes go and collects a 50,000 moving fee, prob some flights home, a nice new house in the leafy subburbs and all that jazz.


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    He got what he wanted in the end, 7 years ago he threw his toys out of the pram and quit the organisation when he didn't get the job. Now it's his and a seven year term will bring him up to pension age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Let's hope he doesn't get the 2 year extension.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    I think the usual was 5 + 2 if approved, so I guess he might have had the max in this contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,173 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think they have to submit it to the Government of the day.


    Or perhaps its up to the DG themselves

    The director general of the media organisation can take the position for a period of five years with the option of extending for another two years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Mc Redmond never stood a chance-


    Board interview panel: Thanks for coming in Mr Mc Redmond - Now, can you tell us how you would envisage your tenure here over the next 5/7 years and what ideas do you have for taking the organisation further?

    David: 'Thank you for the opportunity to put my ideas forward. I'm actually very excited about the prospect and have given the position a great deal of thought'

    'I'd start at the top and work down through the various departments. Simply put, I believe there are too many managers in all areas and this must be reduced. Also, the remaining managers must take heavy reductions in their remuneration packages and also be held fully and personally accountable for the decisions made in the departments they run.'

    'As another example, I think 2FM is a complete drain on the organisation. How a radio show needed three presenters is frankly astonishing and is indicative of the mismanagement of the station - I would plan to phase out 2FM completely within 18 months.'

    'I have lots of other ideas regarding streamlining the organisation using long established commercial business models if you'd like to hear them?'

    NEXT!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,851 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Forbes' reign has got to be regarded as a massive failure. Is there any aspect of RTE which is in a better position than when she got there?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    The chairperson of the RTÉ board will tell an Oireachtas committee today that the government must take a decision on reform of the licence fee.

    If the fee is replaced with a household-based broadcasting charge, shouldn't there be an exemption for householders who can prove that they have no TV hardware at all (i.e. the monitor, which is erroneously referred to as a TV set, aerial, cable, satellite dish) and no access to broadband at all?! If there is no such exemption, then householders who currently forgo TV and internet services because of financial problems will be unjustly penalised. After all, TV and the internet are not as important as electricity, water and heating.



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