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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Tempting value, as it's blue that's €1.4k over base €40.3k price so €4k off for a car with little mileage, USS in place and (pedantic) lifetime basic connectivity

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭creedp


    It's only €17k if he's not flipping for another Tesla. Again its the cost of change that is key. IMO he would be mad to be flipping for any other car brand at that level of depn

    It's a great price compared to most other asking used M3 prices, most 2020s are asking more than that. IMO the current asking prices for many used M3s are unrealistic. The way things are going a lot of dealers in particular will be asking more for a 2020 than a brand new car. Something has to give, hopefully soon.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    It's not €17k in any case, that car was €51.x as he got it before the price rises last year

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭creedp


    True they have severely hit Tesla owners who want to try a different brand. In your example the guy is driving a brand new car for a €3k cost of change, the rest is history unfortunately. Now for his sake I hope Tesla doest reverse the price cuts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Bif


    Hi. Can you upload a photo of Tesla 3 with a hitch? is it hidden/detachable etc? Thanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭bf


    For anyone looking for a M3 in the next few weeks, I've just cancelled a M3 LR with alloys in red (grant qualifying) and M3P in Red - both were inventory cars & due for delivery in next few weeks.

    Switched to a grant qualifying M3P in white



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Any sign of a 2 week edd on the white M3 P?

    Or possibly a VIN or is that wishful thinking at this stage!? 🙂

    I guess patience will save you with the switch 💲💲

    I'm still trying to decide whether to take a white M3 LR for €49746 or a black M3 P for €60263.

    When you look at the cost of a white M3 P now @€53940, it's quite difficult to justify more than 6k to get into a black one in inventory (as you lose the grant).

    Only thing is the black one will be available imminently (apparently!) Whereas you'd have to wait a while for a white one.

    Flip side is that a M3 LR plus accel boost is 95% of a performance capability.

    Main thing you miss out on is;

    - 20" Wheels (positive or negative depending on viewpoint)

    - Bigger brakes

    - Track mode

    - Spoiler & pedals

    - Faster up to a point (vs 3 LR with Acc boost) and higher top speed.

    Post edited by Foreign Sports on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Getting white (and having the car wrapped) makes the most sense now!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Edgardo.


    I would be of the opposite opinion.

    You should recoup some of the extra you paid for a non white P but you won't be able to recoup the cost if the wrap. You may even have to pay to 'unwrap it' when it you try to sell it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,188 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Face-lift model 3. Is the drop in prices to move on the older stock. Wouldn't surprise me if they put prices back up a bit.





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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You will not recoup €6k for a black P unfortunately. Wrap is less than €2k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭KrustyBurger


    I decided to stick with the M3 after a few days of indecision between that and the MY. The last price cut solidified that decision! I see a load of MYs are being delivered. No sign of the 3s yet, suppose it’ll be late May or June. Don’t mind tbh but excited to get the car.

    The other M3/Y delivery thread is a hoot atm!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Or is the price drop reflective of the cheaper cost of manufacturing the facelifted version?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,188 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Perhaps but aren't all the ones ordered in the last week non face-lift though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    are you considering upgrading the Leaf to a Model 3 since the price drop?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Not IMO, Facelift version is not in production yet. We may not see it until Q1 2024 or later.

    The strongest possibility is that prices are reduced to rid stock IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭coil1985


    What would be the cut-off point to order to potentially get a car in June, if indeed that cut off point has not already passed?

    Base level M3.

    Im not seeing much value in the second hand market and back thinking about this car again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭bf


    Still the generic Apr - June delivery date & no VIN. I can’t see it arriving before June to be honest. As others mentioned if you can wait for a white car but want black, far more sense financially to get it wrapped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭bf


    Hard to know - but I’d say you are close now! Failing that I’ll have a 231 M3 RWD with allots for sale once I get a delivery date for my M3P 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Just out of interest and a little off topic but is it easy to remove a wrap if you are selling?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭bf


    I’ve never done it, but believe it is easily removed - but get it done by the right person!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Thanks, paint work should be pristine underneath wrap, a good selling point..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The reason for the price cuts is that Tesla is manufacturing more cars than they can sell. Once they announce the midlife refresh, demand for the current model will drop further, which is when you would usually see price cuts to shift the older ones already manufactured. For certain, the refresh model and the runout model won’t have the same price.

    Look at demand and production for the ID3 since VW announced their refresh, they’ve dropped most of the production of the current version id3 and pushed hard on the id4. Tesla don’t have that luxury, as they only make 2 cars, unless they shift all worldwide production to the Y, but they wouldnt have enough demand then either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Certainly am, would you recommend? Thinking that with grants on the way out it will never be this cheap again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Poor owner, sold my 201 blue SR+ for nearly that much a few weeks ago 🙁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭sk8board


    existing Tesla drivers taking the hit in order to shift excess production. Great for the laggard mass market buyers.

    The way people have been equating ‘cost to change’ as being similar to the destruction of the cars value is simply not how economics works. That logic only works if you choose to ignore any money paid in the past, and the value of the time that it took for you to earn the additional money needed to buy the same product at a higher price.

    At the worst case scenario side of things, buyers of a M3LR, in a colour, since the grants ended July 2021, and probably on finance, are about ~€70k all in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭creedp


    Just like depreciation is a normal economic impact of car ownership, especially when buying new. Prior to the EV revolution followed by the impact of chip shortages / the Ukraine war it was pretty normal to experience a destruction in asset value of anything up to 20% in the first year or between 40% and 50% of asset value after 3 years. The usual line during this period was that cost of change was the important thing when changing a car as this is what hits a person cash flow. I think people have come to almost expect minimal depn over the last couple of years but it's likely the long term depn norm will reestablish itself in the short to medium term.

    Dont get me wrong I fully understand why people are upset that the value of the investment in their new Tesla has been reduced following a decision to significantly reduce the price of new models but all I was saying is that if you stick with the Tesla M3 / MY, then the impact of that reduction is somewhat mitigated.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    100%

    People posting thinking that value retention was here to stay. 50% of value after 3 years is the norm and should be expected going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭wassie


    Tesla have shown over a number of years that they don't follow the motor industry norms when it comes to pricing and model updates. As one of the first to impliment direct sales via the agency model vs the dealer model, they have adjusted their pricing both up and down without notice.

    Some peeps have lost out when pricing goes down. But others have benefited also as Tesla also allows potential buyers to lock in pricing at order time. Most other manufacturers will pass on price increases if the price goes up after an order is placed.

    Also they don't follow a typical model update cycle like their competitors as well. Updates are introduced into manufacturing at times to suit themselves.

    In my own experience, I ordered an SR+ in Sep 2020. Without any notification or advice, the actual car I received in Dec 2020 was the 21 refresh model which came as a complete surprise.

    [Edit: typos]

    Post edited by wassie on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭creedp


    That was a very decent price to get for a 3 year old M3 on a private sale. Ive just seen a dealer dropping a 192 M3 LR by €4k to €39,900 which isnt a bad price for a now €50k car. I think asking prices for 20/20 M3s are currently too high but we'll see what transpires over the next couple of months



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