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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You know it's bad when you make Nixon look decent and upstanding by comparison. At least when Nixon was caught dicking around, he went with a relative minimum of fuss. He had a bit of decorum and respect for the institution. Trump just does not give a bollócks about anything. There's no limit to how muddy and base he'll get if he thinks it will help him in any way.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Whilst Nixon was a very odd man indeed with an extremely weird viewpoint for a whole lot of things, there was at least at his core a genuine attempt at doing things he thought best for the Country - He was very very wrong about those things and even more wrong in how he went about them , but he was doing them for reasons other than personal aggrandisement.

    Trump ONLY cares about himself and every single thing he does in every waking moment is solely focussed on making him feel better about himself.

    He couldn't give a damn about anyone or anything else.

    Post edited by Quin_Dub on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    All very true. Though I think that Nixon was basically ready to do the same, when the Senate Republican leadership met with him to let him know that they wouldn't be backing him. The House was getting the article(s) of impeachment ready for a vote, and they were convinced that it would pass. And they let Nixon know that when it came to the Senate he would be convicted. So while Trump is certainly even worse than Nixon was, the current crop of Republicans as a whole are also worse than their counterparts from the 1970s too. No matter how bad Trump gets, they continue to back him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Yeah, that's exactly what I mean (And was actually the example I was thinking of. That and George HW Bush). Politics are put aside. People who would ideologically be polar opposites shelve their differences and parties are civil to eachother. They shake hands, murmur some inoffensive platitudes to eachother, stand side-by-side and look solemn.

    But here's the thing: What would MTG or Broebert (Or whatever her name is) or any of the other MAGA loons say about Obamas, Clintons, Bidens, Bushs turning up? Because it WILL happen eventually. Maybe all of them won't even be alive by then but some will be and other, maybe future presidents will be there.

    Personally I believe they would shriek about "How dare they disrespect him? (Probably with a capital "H"). How DARE they play politics at a funeral?" And if they DIDN'T turn up (Assuming there would be shrieks), there will be shrieks about "How DARE they disrespect him/Him by NOT turning up?". Fox "news" will decry the lack of respect either way also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I've been blue in the face saying it, but the Republican party cannot quit Trump until enough of the voter base turns on him, which hasn't happened yet. We thought it was about to happen back in November when Trump's surrogates crashed and burned and Ron DeSantis seemed to shoot up in the polls. Now, Trump's numbers have rebounded, and all the right-wing American news media who were fixing to cut Trump loose have to essentially pretend they still back him.

    The difference between the 70s and now is that you now have people in completely separate lived realities, thanks to the information bubbles which thrive on social media, whereas back in the 70s, people were pretty much consuming the same mass media. For better or worse, enough people were on the same page that common rules could be agreed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,388 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    On that point, I was listening to a podcast on the Dominion court case.

    The problem will be that as 20% of the population believe the election was stolen, despite it being absolutely untrue, when it comes to jury selection, how can you ensure that you'll get someone who will listen to reason?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Because it's in New York and that's what voir dire is for.

    Nothing guaranteed , but you can assume that the worst loons will be filtered out.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's even worse for the GOP.

    Since the indictment , Trumps numbers have increased among the GOP base , but have cratered outside that bubble.

    So, it's the worst possible scenario for them - It's making it more likley that he'll win a primary while at the same time increasing the chance that not only will he lose the General Election , but he'll probably cost them the House and Senate as well.

    And there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Tippex


    I saw a report last night that Gen Z voted 77% Democrats, 21% Republicans (I assume the other 2% was independent) in the midterms.

    The ratio for millennials was not as big but still favoured the Dems.

    The other thing to note is that the baby boomers are the ones that favour Republicans. Still, the Gen Z and Millenial vote combined is larger than the baby boomer vote and likely to only get bigger with all the shenanigans going on with Republican states.

    This is apparently from PEW research.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    Democrats are extremely triggered by Ron to the point they are launching misinformation smear campaigns and getting huge backlash for it (read their own comment section) . They furiously hate that Florida is booming while walmarts and wholefoods are going out of business in their own cities due to rampant crime. If democrats are so confident in defeating Trump and the likes of Santis than why the need for such political hit jobs and misinformation campaigns.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover



    Two words:

    Florida

    Man


    But seriously. You think the Democrats are the only ones running smear campaigns? trump is running smear campaigns... Against DeSantis. They are eating eachother alive. and you have to admit, trump's splitting of the vote is hurting the GOP. It is splitting the Republican Party into the GOP and the GQP. The majority of the Republican Party still believe that 2020 election was stolen for God's sake. There are people posting on this thread that believe that Jan 6 consisted of tourists getting guided tours! These (proven) lies are being propagated by trump mouthpieces. The GOP knows these are lies but has refused to do anything about it.

    So people are not "triggered" by DeSantis' "booming" economy. They do not like his policies.

    Personally, I do not like the fact that my best friend is not welcome in Florida because he is gay. That a family member of mine is not welcome because she had to have an abortion 20 years ago to save her life. That I am not welcome because I support them. That I am not welcome because I am atheist and don't believe in "creation theory"

    This is not me being "triggered" this is a real person stating why they feel that they are not welcome in what was once a nation that prided itself on its much vaunted "freedom" and moral highground. Do you consider my concerns about not being welcome to the US "triggers"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,025 ✭✭✭✭banie01




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Well it was not nice knowing you Ron, the absolute donkey

    In recent campaign statements he said he thinks he’s quashed democrats in florida, I think he has no clue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,388 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Oh my god - politicians attacking other politicians!?!

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    while walmarts and wholefoods are going out of business in their own cities

    they must find that brilliant, hating both companies for being far too large and exploitative both. Both Walmart and Amazon keep their workforces on food stamps while their megastores shove all other competition out of the space. Heck Bernie still routinely rails against Bezos and the Waltons. Why would democrats be unhappy when they’re taken down a peg?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sorry Donald no crying no I’m sorry’s but Trump did look downtrodden - and the DA’s office had to offer him some hand lotion for fingerprinting.

    I can see the fundraising campaign now going off about how dry is hands were, only guilty peoples hands are sweaty, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Tippex


    This is what awaited Trump on his return from his deposition yesterday.

    Lots of tears in support of him I see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    You're picking the weakest evidence that cities are having issues - the businesses made terrible decisions. Walmart's business model simply doesn't work in cities where they have to pay high rent for their large stores and similarly the single Wholefoods I presume you're talking about in SF just happens to have the exact same issue, it is enormous and they're paying a fortune for rent - Wholefoods are keeping their smaller stores open in the area. There are far more examples of Dem cities booming than there are ones that are GOP controlled.

    I'm sorry to break it to you but Pudding Fingers Ron simply isn't ready for the big time and I don't think he'll ever be unless he completely revisits his approach of trying to be a value brand Trump. He can't handle the heat outside his safe space in Florida and Fox News, where the Dems are completely incompetent, and continuously shoots himself in both feet doubling down on culture wars topics that only a small fraction of the voters care about and an even smaller fraction agree with him. His latest signing off on 6 week abortion ban is just the latest in a long line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    That signing was in the middle of the night and in a closed session. Nail on the head, the governor of Florida is most afraid of sunshine ironically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Anyone ‘member Parler?

    the “Uncancellable free speech platform” going on indefinite hiatus after nobody used it. Bought up by a right wing media broker for cents on the dollar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Tippex


    so you are taking issue with a group (likely a couple of hundred people, maybe more I can't tell) protesting outside trump tower peacefully (although they are chanting, seems to be no hint of aggravation etc never mind any sort of violence or attempt to push or barge)

    Chanting the following

    "New York Hates you"

    "We're here, we're queer, We're Fabulous don't **** with us"

    "Peaceful Protest"

    But you seemed ok with what went on in the Capital on Jan 6th, where it is well documented that "protesters" built gallows and chanted "hang Mike Pence" along with ransacking representatives' offices along with the litany of other "stuff" that went on over those crazy crazy hours?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Aww remember how it was used to identify exactly who was part of the Jan 6th inssurection because all those dumb dumbs posted on it with their locations attached



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,740 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Well, apparently chanting is assault to GQP snowflakes



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Didn't they also leave the full user-list out in the open at one stage so people were able to download the full user list with all their details?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    He spoke at Liberty University today and even there he didn't even talk about it being an achievement.

    The GOP know how unpopular their policies are, they just cant help themselves



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Their problem is that the only people giving them big money these days are the fringe loons, so despite the fact that all this culture war crap is pretty universally unpopular , they want the money..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Auto manufacturers are phasing out AM radio because it is increasingly interfered with by onboard vehicle systems.

    The MAGAverse is losing their heads about it, because so much of their propaganda is 'driven' by bored brainless chucklefucks scanning through the AM radiowaves to hear their pizzagate level nonsense (still remember having to sit on a roadtrip I was not in charge of, listening for hours as Hannity blasted the Koran by cherrypicking the hell out of it, I must have missed his accompanying Bible episode). To them, it's very much a conspiracy that all these global auto makers are chucking the AM radio - '*THEY* DONT WANT YOU TO HEAR US' etc.




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