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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,393 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Some intern in the DA's office is going to have to go over transcripts and anything Trump says about the trial to see if he incriminates himself!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Trump's speech last night was weird. Low key, low energy. Apart from the normal 'woe is me' lines, that's all it was. A pity party.

    But, unusally, for these types of events, there was little in the way of a call to beat them in court. The sword of justice and the shield of Truth (I think that was some UK politician who subsequently got failed!). He didn't put forward any defence, he didn't in any way try to rebut the charges.

    Just that it was all a plan to get him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    Well, yeah. His basic claim is that it is just a political witch-hunt. He is continuing to just pretend that there isn't any substance at all to the indictments against him. That he is just being persecuted because he is a Republican and they fear him.

    Of course the fact of the matter is that he is being prosecuted because he broke the law. Any claims that the charges shouldn't have been filed in the first place are basically just saying that either Trump in particular or politicians in general should be above the law. That they should be able to get away with breaking the law.

    Republicans on this and most other topics are just hypocrites. They claim that prosecuting Trump for things he actually did is just a matter of trying to score political points. Whereas them investigating Hillary Clinton for literally decades wasn't at all political. They were just doing their jobs. Even though they investigated her for literally decades, for a wide variety of "reasons", and were never able to find anything to charge her with. But when Trump is investigated, and the evidence was put in front of a grand jury, that grand jury came back with 34 felony indictments. But somehow the Trump investigation was baseless, while the Clinton investigation was totally justified.

    With Republicans it is always projection. They accuse Democrats of going after Trump for no reason other than politics, because that is what they do to their opponents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,631 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    How long did it go on for? Just watching it on Sky News now.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,078 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I think I saw it went for 25 minutes. Be careful, though, several networks cut away before he was done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,631 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Thank you. Loads of drivel by the sounds of most of it anyway. The same rubbish from Trump. He seems devoid of learning.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Hell I’d wager over a decade straight of badgering us over these claims against Hillary, Hunter, etc that Republicans made their own bed priming the American people for a future where more and more often politicians are taken to court for potential crimes, even high ranking officials, nevermind the precedent that you can investigate someone 11++ times and it’s still above board - since Obama took over hell, no, they even implied they’d go after Al Gore - republicans have spent decades telling the American people “hey these democrats are very corrupt and getting away with it from the deep state we should totally prosecute them”

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I shared the fox feed in an earlier post it doesn’t cut away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,785 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Id say it was his craziest speech yet, Hunter Bidens laptop got 2 mentions within the first minute and then it went further downhill from there. It was a ranting and raving bumbling mess and he lost the audience several times during it. I must say as well I was very disappointed that we didnt even get any news of his forthcoming healthcare plan, it must be due any day now?

    Otherwise in the Stormy case his defence that he would have paid her anyway to hide the story from Melania and regardless of the election is already toast because the DA has evidence that he told Cohen if they could delay the payment until after the election then they wouldnt pay her at all. In other words Trump didnt care about the story getting out to Melania so long as it didnt effect his chances of election. The payment was all about preventing the story emerging during the election campaign and Alvin Bragg will be able to prove that to a jury without trouble.

    Has there been any fallout yet from MTG and Don Jnr tweeting photos of the judges daughter? In the MAGA world you can only presume she is going to get death threats now. Im half wondering did they do it to try to get the judge to recuse himself from the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Barr - I lied for you about the Mueller report and put pressure on law enforcement to look the other way regarding your actions and also interfered with prosecutions of friends of yours. I will go down in history as a legal lackey for the most corrupt president of all time, thus destroying my legacy.

    Trump - yeah, but what have you done for me lately?

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,934 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I think cap lock is broken his phone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    That part really stuck out to me too when I read the SOF, he was going to be undone by his own stinginess.

    If he had just paid Stormy like he had already agreed to, prosecutors would never have been able to pin it to the election over trying to simply hide the fact from Melania in perpetuity, beyond all reasonable doubt. He gave proof positive through being an untactful miser that he only and solely cared about the information coming out before the election.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    We knew the right have gone insane, but they've gone insane

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭Wossack


    What I like to do is imagine him hitting shift singularly each letter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    Here is a copy of the prosecutor's statement of facts in the NY Trump case:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/84fba797-216a-490c-b75d-d77bca6d10f3.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭trashcan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭archermoo


    You have to remember to the MAGA/Republican party anything to the left of hunting poor people and minorities for sport is "the radical left".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    There would be no indictment if he was a Democrat. Everybody knows that. Even most moderate Democrats know its a "dubious" charge. The extreme wing of the Democrat party are loving it but they will all be left with egg on their face when Trump wins and Bragg loses. Most know what this is by now , a grotesque case of election meddling and desecration of the democratic election process. The Democrats have utterly disgraced and shamed themselves on the world stage and its glorious to witness. You know they've e gone terribly wrong when Vox of all publications is calling them out. VOX!





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,130 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    There would be no indictment if he was a Democrat.

    Keep up

    Everybody knows that.

    Bandwagon fallacy, and the kind of throwaway heard on Fox News every hour to supplant a lack of facts.

    Most know what this is by now , a grotesque case of election meddling and desecration of the democratic election process. 

    lol

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,934 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    ‘Everybody knows that’ the call of the person with no real points make



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Imagine thinking that republicans wouldn’t absolutely nail Obama to the wall if they had any real, actionable evidence that he committed a crime prior to him becoming president. They went f*cking mental when he wore a tan suit for gods sake.

    If Trump has committed crimes, he should face justice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,078 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Durham, the lead chef at the Nothingburger kitchen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,483 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Why does anyone even bother responding to BS, the video and the post had nothing to do with each other but still he posted the same tired old stuff. All he is doing is proving how incompetent the Rs are if they have not managed to prosecute the Dems for all their terrible crimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Trump has now turned the GOP into the party of defunding the police.

    Not a great seller, even to a notoriously biased Fox News panel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    But no like seriously the GOP accused Biden, Obama, Hillary, and others of treason, conspiratorial murders, pizza parlors, even supernatural abilities. But where was the indictment, from any Republican prosecutor in the country? Where was the impeachment, from any majority of the House of Representatives, which there have been many Republican House, and Senate majorities?

    Trump and the Trump administration and the Attorney General Bill Barr and dozens of Republican States though, launched a Death Blossom of lawsuits and criminal and independent investigations into the 2020 election and were in such a rush to bring any legitimate scrap of paper forward before or on January 6 sent them into outer space levels of "willing to do anything" that would cling to the wall in a court. No suitcase was unturned no high ranking official or low level worker was spared from doxing and threats and allegations of evil

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    To imply they've been 'holding back' over a lack of decorum or something? lol. Hell it's not even about Trump or this latest prosecution they for damn sure would have impeached, indicted or arrested a Democrat President if a jury would convict, regardless of the year or the place or the circumstances, that's been a goal of theirs since Nixon, it's their self imposed redemption arc. They already lied and cheated to try and win elections (they succeeded sometimes) and they knew full well that Nixon was going to be indicted, no question, before the pardon happened. There has been no precedent therefore, or reason, or sense, in them ever pulling a punch on Obama or Clinton or anyone else.

    So for one to claim "There would be no indictment if he was a Democrat," I for one rate that at about eleventy pinocchios.

    So far the legal defense of Trump is "yeah it was in furtherance of another crime, but not a crime within your jurisdiction" kind of like suggesting that any company in new york can falsify business records in the state to cover up crimes so long as those crimes happened outside of new york, whether that be voter fraud in georgia or a child sex ring on a foreign private island.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Yes. It's unfair calling trump supporters fools.

    Let's leave that up to Tucker Carlson and his producer.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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