What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Flaneur OBrien · 02-04-2023 03:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431674#Comment_120431674

Maybe they could try and stop being evil, racist fascists? 🤷‍♂️

Overheal · 02-04-2023 03:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431674#Comment_120431674

No its not people laughing, its pure and fervent hatred of the Man, his family, the GOP and its millions of followers.

Why didn't you mention the Drag Queens in Minnesota? You saw fit to include them in the thread earlier this morning? 🤥

Clearly you forgot to mention the thread is also people helplessly laughing at all the inane and nonsensical deflections to any substantive discussion of Donald Trump.

Why the labelling of Republicans as subhuman, evil, racist, fascist etc.

Literally not happening. I've seen plenty of rampant anti semitism and even some off the wall attempts to misgender users though, just this morning. Who called a Republican "subhuman" any time, in recent months or weeks, in this thread? But we often hear those on the left called scum and other colorful euphemisms. Haven't so much as heard someone utter 'redneck' in here in forever.

This vile labelling of huge amounts of people is hate speech, there is no other word for it.

Which you did with Drag Queens.

😶

astrofool · 02-04-2023 03:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431674#Comment_120431674

You'll find that it's trump that is defecating all over the likes of yourself and the republican party.

What's funny is you're all standing around and pretending to enjoy it while being deathly afraid of being the first to question it.

That you don't see it is hilarious frankly.

Igotadose · 02-04-2023 03:39PM

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If there's a Republican who isn't a rabid Trump supporter (TID? The Indicted Guy?) then let them raise their hand and condemn Trump, and then chime in on what they think the future brings for them. Those that still support Trump support all his actions - as heinous as they are, insurrection, sketchy activities with foreign governments, impeachments, ... All we see from the pro-Trump types is how it never really happened/witch hunt/but what about/... and generally speaking they run off after awhile, then rereg.

As a US citizen who votes in their elections, Trump (and, as he is the GOP leader and speaks for them) and his vision for the USA are terrifying. Supporting him is an anarchists dream - because his goal is to destroy the rule of law in the US and hence the constitution and all it stands for. His campaign speech at Waco - WACO, for forks sake - included "I am your retribution." Really? Retribution is what the USA needs? In its POTUS? How can anyone support that and look themselves in the mirror?

The GOP don't want to govern - they want to rule. The constitution is a big inconvenience. Well, screw that, and if you support the GOP, you too are signed up to destroy the rule of law in the USA.

Overheal · 02-04-2023 03:47PM

This weekend's deflections include and the majority of posts are in response thereupon to:

Bets

Pelosi

Jews

Drag Queens

2024

But minimally substantive discussion of Donald Trump, no substantive political defense against his 34 count felony indictment.

I posted a rather informative video about this from the legal eagle channel - and that guy actually is a bar certified, practicing lawyer who professes at Georgetown. And it breaks down the whole thing in as much detail as we have to date and I've yet to hear any responses on the thread to that or the details we know in general other than the apparent questions surrounding the statute of limitations and the judicial question surrounding that. That piece of it I imagine will be quickly understood on Tuesday, otherwise a Grand Jury would never have voted to indict on charges that were so readily defective.

Apropos to that I was hoping some legal defense theory would emerge beyond a mere statute of limitations argument, but apparently it hasn't, only to be replaced with anti-semitic tropes and deflections to unrelated culture war issues. For the sake of discussion, we should assume the statute of limitations is of no concern, and therefore now, what's next for Donald Trump when that effort to defeat his 34 count indictment is quashed?

Overheal · 02-04-2023 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431628#Comment_120431628

Speaking of these Trump sycophants and their folding and the lack of a moderate in the race, here comes Asa Hutchinson announcing their candidacy to spite Donald Trump and his indictment.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/asa-hutchinson-announces-run-for-president-calls-for-trump-to-drop-out-because-of-indictment-a-sideshow-and-distraction-for-the-country/

“I have made a decision, and my decision is I’m going to run for president of the United States,” he said. “While the formal announcement will be later in April, in Bentonville [Arkansas], I want to make it clear to you I am going to be running. And the reason is, I’ve traveled the country for six months, I hear people talk about the leadership of our country. I’m convinced that people want leaders that appeal to the best of America, and not simply appeal to our worst instincts.”

Cody montana · 02-04-2023 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431528#Comment_120431528

What bets?

Were you the fellow celebrating when the first midterm results were coming in?

Overheal · 02-04-2023 03:57PM

Republicans new response: DEFUND THE POLICE

https://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/jim-jordan-hops-aboard-the-defund-the-fbi-bandwagon-were-gonna-have-to-look-at-limiting-funds-for-the-fbi-and-doj/

MisterAnarchy · 02-04-2023 04:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431796#Comment_120431796

One was Trumps Twitter account would be reinstated before the end of last year, 100 euro to a charity of choice. Multiple witnesses.

Another was that Musk would takeover Twitter.

I dont know how to search through posts on the new platform, maybe someone else can do it.

Cody montana · 02-04-2023 04:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431814#Comment_120431814

That’s the bet you won? 😂

MisterAnarchy · 02-04-2023 04:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431818#Comment_120431818

Unlike others I dont have the liberty of being able to spend all my time on here.

Water John · 02-04-2023 04:05PM

Trump's lawyer hopes Tuesday court hearing will be 'painless and classy'. Does he know his client?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/02/trump-indictment-court-hearing-arraignment-tuesday

MisterAnarchy · 02-04-2023 04:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431815#Comment_120431815

Well it was one of the few bets anyone actually stepped up instead of just being hot air.

Anyway I am keen to adhere to Beastys warning and not divert from the primary topic of discussion Donal Trump, not my bets.

Overheal · 02-04-2023 04:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431828#Comment_120431828

You've been spending it here all morning just the same as everyone else, that's utterly laughable. You also just a handful of posts ago were complaining about and I quote "outright hostility and personal attacks" - here you are attacking others for 'having the liberty of being able to spend all their time on here.'

You had plenty of liberty to spend the time to make the claim that a) you've won every bet you've ever made here and b) that everyone you've ever betted with is personally dishonorable:

Ive won all my bets on here so far, but unfortunately those who lost didnt honour their side of the bargain.

So you have all the time in the world to provide the receipts. No slip, no bet.

Yes, Trump did get his account back but he hasn't posted to it, and for what more, Twitter is functionally worthless already ahead of his absence. Twitter now professionally responds to press inquiries with poop emojis and the old blue checkmark system was even gutted, so we don't actually know who is in control of the account anymore do we.

Overheal · 02-04-2023 04:26PM

One clear reason I suspect why there wouldn't be the same statute of limitations as the originating offense (the payment to Stormy Daniels), and it's one Trump has been categorically accused of in documentary evidence before: Obstruction of Justice.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/chuck-todd-puts-fmr-manhattan-da-cy-vance-squarely-on-the-hot-seat-why-didnt-you-charge-the-hush-money-case-against-trump/

As soon as Trump does something incriminating (and we've talked about this more than once on this thread and previous trump threads) that he will go to the mat to run down the statute of limitations - including it is often remarked running down that limitation while he was in office. But he didn't stop there there were also the long winded lawsuits that predicated any decision to indict, like fighting against revealing his finances for years. He had the Trump Org illegally managing his assets (which the Trump org was already convicted and sentenced for) - we already have evidence of obstruction in the public domain.

So if he did anything to obstruct this case in the last 5 years, it still goes on hey.

Beasty · 02-04-2023 06:59PM

Brianwilldoit threadbanned

Beasty · 02-04-2023 07:26PM

One final warning .If you don't want to discuss Trump do not post in this thread as threadbans will be handed out for going off topic and in particular discussing other users

Overheal · 02-04-2023 07:36PM

Jason Chaffetz defends, 'a degenerate psychopath that truely [sic] hates the USA!'

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jason-chaffetz-totally-dismisses-trumps-post-threatening-death-and-destruction-thats-why-america-loves-the-guy/

That's why America loves the guy you see, because he alludes to vaguely terroristic threats when he's called for accountability.

Which is hilarious because Chaffetz was among the first Republicans to resign in the new Trump era stating he wanted off the "crazy train."

https://time.com/4838792/jason-chaffetz-fox-news-congress/

Fathom · 02-04-2023 09:18PM

Trump recently predicted “death and destruction” if he were indicted (posted on his Truth Social platform). He has now been indicted and must surrender to law enforcement Tuesday in NYC.

Is this the kind of talk you would expect from any of the 45 past presidents of the United States? Attempt substituting one of their names in place of Trump from Washington to Obama to see if it fits with expectations for the highest US office of public trust.

Now substitute the name of another nation’s leader like Valadimir Putin or Kim Jong-un and imagine if such threats to a nation’s citizens would be more likely to occur from them? Does this make you wonder what Trump may share in common with the last two, and not the earlier 44?

banie01 · 02-04-2023 09:50PM

Trump is facing some things in the documents case that will make Tuesday in NY seem like a parking ticket.

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1642616929264492544?t=BYBwiGoynR3qTnksmN8LXw&s=19

TheIrishGrover · 02-04-2023 09:50PM

For crying out loud, they have to put people involved in the trial under protection... like a case against a mob boss. This is a former president. Protecting people against his proven violent cult.

This is not some conspiracy theory sh*t. We all saw it happen. Live on TV (Despite the lies his people try to spew here - the tourists, not insurrectionists etc) and it happened again, and again, and again.

I don't think they will riot and attempt another insurrection this time. NYPD would have no love for terrorists.

It is a strange case to start with. Building up his (Documented. Recorded) attempt to steal the election I suppose.

duploelabs · 02-04-2023 09:50PM

Specifically requested info on the head of the joint chiefs because he tried to rein in trump towards the end of his term

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/02/trump-mar-a-lago-obstruction-classified/

Overheal · 02-04-2023 10:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433287#Comment_120433287

"Investigators have also asked witnesses if Trump showed a particular interest in material relating to Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, people familiar with those interviews said. Milley was appointed by Trump but drew scorn and criticism from Trump and his supporters after a series of revelations in books about Milley’s efforts to rein in Trump toward the end of his term. In 2021, Trump repeatedly complained publicly about Milley, calling him an “idiot."

"The people did not say whether investigators specified what material related to Milley they were focused on. The Post could not determine what has led prosecutors to press some witnesses on those specific points or how relevant they may be to the overall picture that Smith’s team is trying to build of Trump’s actions and intent."

Fathom · 02-04-2023 11:06PM

Does anyone know why Trump named his social media platform Truth Social?

Ironically, the Communist paper in the former USSR, which was first published by the Russian SOCIAL Democratic Party in St Petersburg 5 May 1912 was called PRAVDA, which means TRUTH in English. It remained the main paper for the Communist dictatorship until the fall of the USSR when Boris Yeltson closed it 22 August 1991 (incidentally Putin was a former KGB officer).

Did Trump name his new TRUTH Social platform in admiration of Putin, whom Trump proclaimed was a “genius,” along with many other positive references?

Overheal · 03-04-2023 12:58AM

”Count me out I’m done” - Lindsay Graham, Jan 6, 2021

Lindsay Graham April 2023: https://fb.watch/jFTuiiNIYJ/?mibextid=qC1gEa

TheIrishGrover · 03-04-2023 08:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433502#Comment_120433502

I'm not one for conspiracy theories: I believe man walked on the moon. That the Earth is not flat. That the towers fell on 9/11 due do planes hitting them/damage. That Jan 6 was a failed insurrection attempt by terrorists.

BUT, y'know, it's almost as if this was their attempt for them to say whatever they want without ramifications:

"We never said this was true, your honour"

"You SAID they were True"

"No, your honour. These are 'TRUTHS'. Not truths. Nobody would believe these TRUTHS are actually true"

... It's called the Tucker Defence.

Igotadose · 03-04-2023 08:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433462#Comment_120433462

Milley doesn't get enough credit for keeping Jan 6 from being worse. He met with his reports in advance, looked each of them in the eye and made sure they remembered they'd sworn an oath to preserve the Constitution, not any individual. He told them to remind their reports of the same thing. Woodward talks about it in one of his books.

I'm sure there were a fair few MAGA types in the military. Milley's action helped keep them in check.

Edit: Overheal's link to https://archive.is/HFZ94 mentions 'the oath' to which Milley reminded his subordinates.

Rawr · 03-04-2023 08:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433502#Comment_120433502

It's an interesting comparison. You could even throw in 1984's "Ministry of Truth" for good measure, but I'm not inclined to give Trump too much credit in naming things based on these examples.

I feel it's down to 3 very simple / shallow reasons.

1) Conspiracy Theorists have a knack of declaring each other to be "Truth-tellers" whenever they spread their nonsense. Trump & Co are very much in that head-space. Literally calling thier lies...."Truths"

2) It needed to sound close enough to "Twitter", which it is supposed to be bargin-bin clone of.

3) It needed to have a "T" in the name. T...for Trump, because of course Trump needed his name somehow attached to it. I bet you the original name was going to be "Trump Social" and he had to be argued down to something more general.

What's even sillier is that "Truth Social" was apparently already taken by some religious group, so even with this name they hadn't even done some basic homework.

Quin_Dub · 03-04-2023 09:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433933#Comment_120433933

Agreed - The use of "TRUTH" is all part of this right-wing story line that only they tell the truth and that only they are true Americans etc.

They've utterly corrupted the word "Patriot" in the same way.

Anyone declaring themselves a "Patriot" in the US nowadays instantly sets off my Twat-alarm because the term has just become so inextricably linked with Ring-wing morons ranting about "Socialism" and "Woke".

And not a one of them would recognise actual real Patriotism if it jumped up and punched them in the mouth.

Muahahaha · 03-04-2023 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433285#Comment_120433285

I was wondering with those classified documents he was storing in Mar a Lago would the FBI have fingerprinted them when they got them back? Because from tomorrow the FBI will also have Trumps fingerprints...

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