General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

His was a much worse play acting than Bruno

Actions like that towards a referee should be punished harshly to cut it out. Similair with the abuse thrown at referees and crowding of players. The more it's tolerated the more players will push it... At youth levels things like this get yellow cards, don't know why it eventually stops.

I'm not sure of your bias but its fairly clear that he pushes him rather than a tap on the back. Look at the refs body reaction. Are you saying that when you're in the shops and moving through a busy aisle this a normal way to pass someone in your way???

Yes the push isn't some big tackle but its the principle of a player even remotely thinking that it's ok to raise hands towards an official.

Shouting and surrounding refs is another matter that has often looked at by media etc. FA should really take a stand to support the refs otherwise the amount of people looking to do the job across all levels will continue to drop.

Definitely something that hasn't been stressed enough. Given the level of players at his disposal its even more impressive. Also he's not relying on one player to carry them but the whole unit is working really well together.

To be fair, they only got humiliatied because of the antics and performances of one or two players. And getting beat 7-0 be a tame that played better is one of those things, but getting beat 7-0 when players just stop trying? Yeah, the individual players deserve the rap for that. Fernades being top of the list (that said, I didn't think there was anything malicious about the linesman incident) - but waving your arms about because a teeenager got the bettre of you....?

They did. I mean, they'd have lost anyway, but players giving up led to a higher scoreline.

Most of them are average players who probably can't believe their luck that a team like United came in with a big contract. They are honest enough just not good enough.

De Gea blows my mind though. No way he is so innocent or loyal he is holding on this long to see if United get better. He doesn't seem like a guy strives too hard for excellence.

I'm not talking about his antics during the whole match, he was disgraceful. But Robertsons play acting when hit in the stomach worse than his, both awful though

Half the name London Irish? What are you referring to there?

Edit; I see London Irish play home rugby matches in that stadium, what does “half the name” refer to?

That's the captain and leader of a team who just lost 7-0. He sets the example. Maybe a defining reason why they lost 7-0 with his mindset. Bruno was lazy in his workrate and lost his head as the goals started rolling in. His petulance carried through on other players and players like Shaw started acting up fouling people etc then too. We saw that last season too with that Hannibal lad fouling someone for the sake of it and Gary Neville cheerleading it on Sky.

These acts of petulance have been very common in recent games. Bruno got booked in both games last season for needless fouls while being hammered 4-0 in both at the time. Ronaldo's childish kick-out and booking against a kid. Bruno was booked for diving in the game at OT this season and acted like a spoilt child when Salah scored trying to hide the ball and then was faking injury again when Salah got the ball off of him. Man Utd could have got a penalty if Bruno didn't dive at 3-0 too which should have seen him yellow carded again.

To be fair, the manager can also be blamed for selecting him to play LW. Bruno didn't do half enough work and as a result Trent, Elliott & Salah had the run of that side of the pitch. A large contribution to another hammering. Long may these acts of petulance continue in these games as we know what happens afterwards.

Ah, I see.