General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

breezy1985 · 24-02-2023 12:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120283205#Comment_120283205

If they just grab their heads you can't move them.

No ref is going to be responsible for being the guy who gets a Christian Erikson situation wrong.

machiavellianme · 24-02-2023 01:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120282768#Comment_120282768

Couldn't they just trim 5-10 minutes from the "analysis" and bants between the hapless studio pundits? It's not like their drivel adds any value. That would keep scheduling largely in line with the programme

TherapyBoy · 24-02-2023 01:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120283411#Comment_120283411

Maybe they could sanction players post-match who were play-acting or feigning an injury to hold up play unfairly.

This would be unnecessary anyway. If there’s no reward for time wasting the players will stop doing it fairly quickly, we saw that in a limited degree in the World Cup. Anyone down with a serious injury or an incident like the Christian Erikson situation wouldn’t be overlooked, someone essentially dying on the pitch is never going to be accused of time wasting etc.

Zico · 24-02-2023 02:04PM

Did her man on Off The Ball have a gamblers regret episode after the Man City v Forest game or was it a bit of show to create some drama?

DM_7 · 24-02-2023 02:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120282768#Comment_120282768

Would not be right on fans either adding 20 mins to the end time of a game.

The only right way is to deal with delays and enforce rules during the game to speed things up. If a player wants treatment they go off the pitch to get it. If the keeper takes in the ball then they have to release it in 6 seconds. End arguing with refs which at times is done to delay restarts.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-02-2023 03:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120283739#Comment_120283739

If a player is injured he stays off for five minutes from the time the game restarts. None of this limping off for thirty seconds only to sprint back on five seconds later.

breezy1985 · 24-02-2023 04:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120284172#Comment_120284172

And then players try to hide head injuries so they don't miss the last 5 mins of a game.

That one would never make it past the legal team.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-02-2023 05:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120284350#Comment_120284350

I've seen them do that several.times anyway.

theoneeyedman · 24-02-2023 05:04PM

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The players unions have a huge responsibility here.

It clear plenty of players, teams and coaches condone and encourage this play acting. It causes the few genuine injuries to be doubted, and in some cases then player welfare, both immediate and long term can be put at risk.

The players unions should be calling out players who facilitate this feigning and putting the players themselves and their cohort at risk - particularly with injuries the unseen effects eventually crop up long term, as many who played in the 60s and 70s have found out.

Players have to be protected from themselves. Their union should be stronger. I think.

citytillidie · 24-02-2023 08:03PM

It is in the women's game but the FA have opened a can of worms here now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64757356

Will we see players now in the men's game getting bans for rolling around when not injured ?

breezy1985 · 24-02-2023 09:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120285042#Comment_120285042

Nothing at all wrong with a retrospective ban for this shte. But you can't put that kind of medical decision in the hand of the ref on the day.

doc_17 · 24-02-2023 09:21PM

Watching the Fulham Wolves game and a player is down injured and has to be replaced but for the first minute or 2 he was down, nobody actually believed he was injured. Stoppage of over 5 mins which won’t all be added on. There might be more than 5 mins of added time, but it won’t take the whole length of the stoppage into account.

JRant · 24-02-2023 10:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120281422#Comment_120281422

If you think that's bad just think how much less it would have been if Barca were winning. Nobody eats the clock like a Spanish team a goal up in Europe.

doc_17 · 24-02-2023 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120285573#Comment_120285573

Everyone does it now. And they all do the same things. And they all get away with them.

machiavellianme · 25-02-2023 07:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120285636#Comment_120285636

Not everyone. It seems Liverpool are incapable of it. Instead, they'd rather concede 5 🙈

y0ssar1an22 · 25-02-2023 12:54PM

Whoever is nearest the ball should take a throw it in. None of this nonsense waiting for a full back to stroll over.

If it's good enough when you need a goal in the last 5 mins, it should be good enough for the rest of the game

breezy1985 · 25-02-2023 03:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120285573#Comment_120285573

What a load of nonsense.

I suppose all Italian teams are defensive and only foreigners dive too.

ShamoBuc · 25-02-2023 03:31PM

Very good work by VAR to disallow the Arsenal goal.

White was literally holding the keepers glove, which was impending him in some way.

Fine fine by Trossard though.

Iheanacho offside for his effort.

rob316 · 25-02-2023 03:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120281767#Comment_120281767

It was the wrong time to be trying it though, it was an unprecedented world cup during the season with concerns over burning out players, adding 10 mins onto each game was never going to do down well.

Drumpot · 25-02-2023 03:38PM

Time wasting is the least of the sports problems at the moment. It’s remarkable and ironic how much time is being given to the topic.

I also find it odd that some people are quick to jump on the “let’s stop the clock every time the balls out of play” idea or change the game to 60 minutes. Maybe we should have half a goal awarded if the ball goes over the bar and change it from half’s to innings with no draws allowed. It’s not hard to see American influences being lapped up by some.

I don’t mind change but I don’t want to see the hyperbolic tail wag the dog in the sport. I’d just rather teams learned to better respond to the wasting time tactics. Just like teams learned how to get around Jose Mourihnos Uber defensive play eventually, don’t change the sport cause some teams are top level a**holes as wasting time.

25-02-2023 03:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120287459#Comment_120287459

People aren't pulling 60 mins out of thin air it's just around on average how much the ball is in play in most games, so wouldn't take any or much adapting to, fitness wise.

Football would be a much better spectacle without it and it's an easy enough fix.

There is no countering to it either not from the opposition you can't make the opposition move quicker or not fall over every 2 minutes.

We have seen at the world cup if players or managers see they don't get an advantage they can change hie they act.

Just because something comes from an American sport doesnt automatically make it a bad thing

ShamoBuc · 25-02-2023 03:50PM

All 4 games scoreless at ht.

Fitz* · 25-02-2023 04:05PM

The average in-play time for Premier League games this season is 55:18.

60 mins game clock would actually result in more football being played.

NIMAN · 25-02-2023 04:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120287524#Comment_120287524

been watching this for a few weeks now.

Has the number of goals taken a big drop off in the epl?

I suspect there is an element of managers keeping the game tight for the 1st half. "Go in at the break level". Then try to open up a little bit more in 2nd half to sneak a potential win? Negative tactics creeping more and more into the game.

Loafing Oaf · 25-02-2023 04:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120287603#Comment_120287603

No coincidence that only team to have scored is the only one in the top half I'd say...

25-02-2023 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120287591#Comment_120287591

Ya I think it's at in lowest in 12 years which is another reason why it's being discussed so much

ShamoBuc · 25-02-2023 04:42PM

West Ham piling on the pressure in the last 20, 4 goals scored.

eigrod · 25-02-2023 04:54PM

That last 20 minutes couldn’t have gone any worse for Everton, across 3 games.

ShamoBuc · 25-02-2023 04:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120287783#Comment_120287783

Into the bottom 3 they go and they could well stay there until the end of the season.

Drumpot · 25-02-2023 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120287508#Comment_120287508

60 minutes Just so happens to be the exact same time as an American football game! I’m sure that’s a coincidence along all the American owners getting involved!

And no, I’m not interested in changing the sport because of a minor inconvenience in the game. Wasting time has always been part of the sport. The way people are demanding some sort of flawless game, in 20 years time it won’t be recognisable if they change every aspect.

It’s borderline pantomime stuff at this stage along with VAR hysterics and constant reworking of rules, where football comes second to all other dramas people are trying to make Into bigger problems than they are.

General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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