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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    Dumbfounded today by this old wan who decided it was fine to swerve onto my side of the road to pass out a cyclist. And still not giving 1 metre space. I had to come to a dead stop to avoid collision. It's just the case that some drivers seem to panic when they have to deal with slow moving cyclists. Granted he was hugging the kerb, and may have discouraged this pass if he'd been more assertive and owned the lane. FYI, this area next to Cahir Castle is due to be redeveloped - the whole stretch should be made pedestrian priority, only a matter of time until some tourist is injured.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    In a weird turn of events, I just gave my number to a motorist in a supposed 'cyclist'/motorist collision, to support the motorist. He was pushing two bikes on foot and ran one at low speed into her car, which was stationary, then clearly demanded she get out to swap details. I was watching the whole thing from the bus stop across the road.

    I rang the gardai because it was clear fraud, but they were not interested.

    I was watching the lad with the bikes because I'm fairly sure he checked to see if the door of a delivery van parked nearby was unlocked, before he started the little charade.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Fair play, most people ignore stuff to get on with their day. Gardai don't like to be interested if it doesn't directly involve you as a victim I've noticed so hopefully the driver pursues it.

    To this day I still remember the time I came off the bike at ~40kph once and landed off to the side at a junction of a housing estate and cars just drove past because I wasn't in their way. Had to crawl off the road and call my mam to come get me. I was more angry than hurt!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭standardg60


    You just know that the OP filtering past him at the lights got his goat up, so was determined to bully their way past immediately.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭standardg60


    There was a dash cam video doing the rounds a couple of years ago, where a car was stopped at a junction somewhere in the city centre. Some scrote slowly cycled off the footpath, hit the car and collapsed on the ground. The occupants, who weren't shy themselves, started shouting at him that they had the whole thing on video, whereupon he made a miraculous recovery and walked away.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,615 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    I think those are the 2 main things. There's nasty pr1cks and useless pr1cks. And then plenty of decent drivers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Yep there are some who don't think they're doing anything wrong, and there are some who want to put manners on you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,773 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I think that's a large part of it alright... goes back to why hugging the kerb is a bad habit to start off on, even though for some new/ very casual commuter cyclists it may seem like the safe/ correct option. Bad drivers (in my experience) just take it as the cyclist accepting their inferior status and as an implied invitation to squeeze past.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Agree completely.

    That driver was annoyed you came up the inside and "got in his way". Made sure to give you an extra squeeze with the trailer as he passed. Very few people towing trailers about the place are poor at observation (with the exception of many horsebox towers).

    And yep hugging the kerb also allows bad drivers to think they'll "fit" past you.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Had an N driver overtake me on a T junction just as I was turning right. Thankfully the road was wide enough I had loads of room to move out of the way but overtaking another vehicle midturn in the same lane. he had to cut the corner and then struggled to correct himself that he nearly hit the island in the middle of the road. In purely childish mannerisms, I called him a wanker as I rolled past, I imagine he was confused as to why but anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Kander



    Luckily its been awhile but I just had to post two useless must get in fronts driver I had in one day. Was able to eyeball the Jones Engineering driver for another 30 sec after the clip till I turned away to work.


    The line of traffic was visible from a long way back. No reason to this


    *Edited with better links

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I don't know if this counts as a near miss as it involved pedestrians, but I'd like a second opinion. I'm not sure if I was in the right or wrong!

    I was cycling along the canal greenway and was at a section only wide enough for two people. There was a couple walking ahead two abreast and facing away from me. So instead of ringing the bell resulting in the inevitable scurry of them not knowing which way to move, I decided to cycle on the inside of them along the grass.

    As I passed by, the guy started shouting abuse at me! I stopped and asked him what was wrong and he started to tell me to watch where I was going, that I nearly hit him and that I should respect people walking along the canal.

    I thought I was doing the "right" thing by not ringing a bell or shouting at them to move as there wasn't a real need. And to be honest I thought you weren't supposed to walk two abreast when there's only room for two people as there's no room for passing.

    I imagine he got a bit of a fright when he wasn't expecting a bike to pass him by and that's why he reacted that way.

    What do you think? Was I in the wrong?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Did similar myself outside doing the school drop off this morning.

    Gave the mother and daughter a cheery "Hello" as they took up the whole bike path to create 4 abreast across the path and bike path.

    Scooted around the grass. Sure what harm.

    Some people just want to be upset....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Unless you were going by at speed I don't see the issue. I'd have no issue with ringing a bell though, and a friendly "on your left/ right" or a greeting as you pass can help too. Some people are just cranks who don't like cyclists though. Brother had a couple walking with their dog on a lead across the cycle path give out to him for cycling towards them the other week - apparently "he's a big boy now" and should have been on the road. This despite the fact that the road in question is a one-way lane and he was traveling against the flow of car traffic in a two-way/ two lane cycle path. You can only count to ten, shrug your shoulders and move on when you come across people like that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Assuming you weren't flying past them I don't see the issue. I've done it myself a few times on shared pedestrian/bike paths when they're ignorant to their surroundings. I slow right down as I'm on a road bike.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Maybe I was going a tad too fast and that's what spooked them. I don't normally go at speed, but there was a wind behind me and I seemed to be sailing along. I'll take it slower next time!

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Buy more expensive wheels with a load freehub and coast up behind them so that a) they hear you and b) they know you are more important than them. Should sort out future encounters

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Alias G


    Just use the bell. They are intended for exactly these scenarios.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I happened to be on my bike which does not (yet) have a bell. I always ring it on my hybrid.

    Is there a bell you can get that you can put beside the gear shifters on a road bike? Part of the reason I don't have one on that bike is because the only ones I can find you have to position on the horizontal bar. I'd have to take my hand off the brakes to ring it, which isn't the most ideal or safest.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    When I come to stopped traffic, I don't try and get to the top. I wait like everyone else in the queue until the traffic starts moving, and nobody has ever tried to squeeze by me. Perhaps drivers do think like that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Trigger bell, basically a bell with a cable tie like attachment so you can stick it around the shifter hood

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Excellent, thank you. All about getting the right wording to search for on Google!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Thoughts on this pass from this morning, please?

    Front view:

    Rear view:


    I thought it was particularly bad but I know the people in the red car that came around the bend towards us, and I asked them about it this evening. They didn't even recall having noticed it.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my first thought (and this is not blaming you, but i know it might come across that way) is that you should have been further out. dick move by the driver though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Thanks both. This is part of a 1km stretch which has 5 blind bends, with 4 reasonably straight stretches between them, but which has a solid white line the whole way. I know that nobody is going to stay behind me for the whole 1km so I normally move towards the centre approaching the bends and move back into the side on the straights. It's mostly the same drivers every day, some are my neighbours and some are rat-runners. I like to think I'm training them to wait for the straights to overtake me (and others).😉

    Yesterday morning I was further in than I would normally be at that point. Maybe because I didn't want to start moving out as the van was passing and I could then see the oncoming car and didn't expect the Ford would try to overtake.

    I guess what I'm asking is what people's thoughts are on the likely outcome if I report this one to Traffic Watch?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,450 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Exactly. I have been teaching my kids to use the bell anytime they are passing people. It let's people know they are there

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I wish bells were viewed that way by some, I have been threatened for using one in my youth so I just don't bother. I just freewheel a good bit out so they hear it coming, less shocking than a bell to someone not paying attention. Then a friendly thank you or hello as required.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Two near misses in the last few days. Neither involved me. One a car beside me sped up and overtook the cyclist in front of me and left hooked her right at the turn into the Frascati centre. Fair play to her reaction time as he didn't even get ahead of her when he turned in on her, she managed to react instantly and turn in with the car but it was almost ambulance calling time. Driver had 3 kids in the back and then started shouting at her as if it was her fault, claimed she came out of nowhere and he didn't see her (he overtook her and I was 30m behind and had seen her 50m before he overtook her). Next was a student driver turning across a delivery driver coming into the Clonskeagh gate of UCD. I was waiting to turn right but had seen the car and cyclist so was just waiting for them to go past when the young lad turned in late and hard. Again the cyclist reacted instantly and just missed his front wheel being taken out.

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