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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    You can't play all attacking half backs though. You need a player or 2 who will sit and cover the full back line. Tadhg Morley is one of the first names on the Kerry team, yet you don't see him bombing up the field. Cian O'Sullivan played a similar role with Dublin for years.

    I think Stephen Coen gives a lot to the team. He's great at competing for kickouts and breaking ball. Unlike a lot of our backs, his first thought is kick passing the ball. Also, despite all the stick he gets, his scoring return is decent - especially in big games.

    Personally I don't see this Loftus experiment working long term. SC at 6 with Paddy Durcan and EMcL either side is still our strongest HB line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I went in hard on McLaughlin for taking the shot on, but I wasn't questioning his place on the team at all.

    I think Coen is a bit underrated myself. A player like that is needed in most teams. RedDevil55 has made the point better than I could.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭flasher0030




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    The only thing I would add to that is that he must bring serious leadership as well.

    He doesn't seem the most vocal, I guess a lot of it goes unseen by us, but to be a minor, u21 and Sigerson winning captain... there has to be something serious there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    I think Coen does a lot of unseen work and covering off the ball. His positioning is always very good, passing very strong too. Scores the odd one but is rarely into the opposition 65 at the same time. He's very strong and a good tackler, rarely gets dispossessed himself.

    Hugely underrated, probably precisely because he doesn't score very often and does a lot of the less spectacular work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    I like EML, but I think a few are getting carried away.

    His speed is an obvious advantage.

    But having no end product in terms of scoring - points or goals - and lacking in game intelligence, I'd really be wanting some form of return from him. I do believe though that his injury has set him back and no one can fault that.

    Someone mentioned above that COC was correct in slowing down that ball against Armagh instead of going for it, when their keeper was dispossessed. Dublin, Kerry and Tyrone would have taken advantage of that, while we just slowed it down. Makes zero sense to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭Padkir


    I have to disagree on your last point.

    I think Cillian understood if we held the ball for 30 seconds, the game was over. He passed it off to Eoghan and then was looking for it back off him - he looked very frustrated to see him shooting.

    I was there live and haven't watched it back, but from memory, a few Mayo lads had broken forward, and I'd be pretty confident that they could have passed it around for 30 seconds then worked a handy chip over score. If they did, it's game over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Yeah I was behind that goal. Brickenden and McBrien were the other 2. It was just a rush of blood from EMacL. Cillian would definetly have known to play keep ball and likely if he’d gotten the ball back it would have been better dealt with. He’s better in terms of awareness and would have known to look for other players coming into position to include in the passage of play or that might be in a better scoring position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    Ah come on, he has plenty of end product. In the championship last year he got a point vs Galway, a point vs Monaghan and 2 points vs Kildare. That's aside from all the frees he wins by running from deep.

    He has made 2 sub appearances so far this year. No need to panic yet about his scoring return.

    Not sure what you think Dublin, Kerry or Tyrone would have done in that situation. Yes the keeper was outfield, but plenty Armagh defenders were back covering. The correct move was to hold possession IMO and try wind down the clock for 30 seconds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Many of our forwards struggle to consistently score goals and points. It's a bit unfair to criticise EML on his scoring return from the half back line!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭GBXI


    I dunno, sounds like a very good argument but I just don't see it! As someone else said if another talented half back comes along, might happen next year with Sean Morahan, you could see him on the bench. Mayo's peak half backline was Keegan Boyle Vaughan. They're all really attacking players.

    Coen's passing is fine but it's not like he's John Daly with the foot passing. He doesn't get turned over because he takes absolutely no risks. He actually makes great runs in attacking positions but it all just looks like he's trying to take his man out of the game rather than score/create a goal. Anyway, the managers love him so they obviously see something I don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    I'd like to think I'm constructively criticising him, as I'd like to see his end product improve even more! He had a couple of goal chances as well last year which didn't come off either, down to composure really. I'd hope he can improve that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Like the red, wouldn't be sold on the pyjama one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    No pushed on the red. The keepers one is awful though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Composure wouldn’t be a trait id associate with many mayo players throughout the years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    My brother has a ticket for Saturday for sale.

    Face value, 18 bucks if anyone wants it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,347 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    l know kids are free into league games, but do they still need a ticket, or can they just walk up ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,583 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Just walk up, no ticket needed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,583 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Wouldn't expect too many changes for tomorrow, maybe something like

    Reape

    Hession O'Brien Brickendon

    Coen Loftus McHugh

    Ruane DOC

    McDonagh Tuohy Flynn

    Carr AOS ROD


    Kerry are in good shape on 2 points (could easily be on 3-4) considering they're still missing a good few players. Kerry are probably weakest at MF whereas it's our strongest area so you'd expect to see us dominate possession. Would be nice to keep another clean sheet and see some better interplay amongst the forwards.

    I'd say it'll be tight, I guess a lot depends on whether Clifford & SOS play - I hope they do in that our younger backs need to experience what it's like to play against the top players. The bookies have Kerry as 1 point favourites



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I expect Kerry to be at much fuller strength than their first 2 games. SO'S to play and D Clifford to be brought on for a good run out would be my thinking.

    I think they'll have targeted this as the real start to 2023 for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Looking forward to headin to the match tomorrow, but based on the draft team by MacDanger (which won't be far off the mark), it is hard to see us come away with any points. SOS and David Clifford have had a nice little break, and will be relishing a nice dry crisp Saturday evening in MacHale Park. We don't really have anyone who is fast and mobile enough for Paudie Clifford. And this new guy Daragh Roche is full of confidence and ability to match.

    But will be great experience for our lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Squatman


    i really think we are in for an eye opener. As you say SOS and DC will be on, and they will run riot against our inexperience. Would be great is KMCStay has a plan, but i think mayo are a shadow of their former selves, and Kerry are back to themselves. League final last year is the sort of margins im expecting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    darragh roche been around a few years now. Don’t think you’ll see him in summer. Donal O’Sullivan is the man tho 5 or 6 years younger than roche too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Anybody hear anything about Tommy Conroy lately? Had heard he had a setback/wasn't going too well, but have no idea how true it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,583 ✭✭✭MacDanger



    1. Cormac Reape Knockmore
    2. David McBrien Ballaghaderreen
    3. Rory Brickenden Westport
    4. Enda Hession Garrymore
    5. Stephen Coen Hollymount/Carramore
    6. Conor Loftus Crossmolina Deel Rovers
    7. Donnacha McHugh Castlebar Mitchels
    8. Matthew Ruane Breaffy
    9. Diarmuid O'Connor Ballintubber
    10. Fionn McDonagh Westport
    11. Bob Tuohy Castlebar Mitchels
    12. Jordan Flynn Crossmolina Deel Rovers
    13. Aidan O'Shea Breaffy
    14. James Carr Ardagh
    15. Ryan O'Donughue Beal an Mhuirthead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭freddie_


    He played last night in a game against the U20s. Scored a couple of goals, recovery seems to be going perfectly. Thank god!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,347 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I hear where you are coming from, but I'll add a little glimmer of hope.

    I think the defense has hardened up a bit this year, and the influence of Buckley can been seen all around the field in the tackling.

    So even though I think Kerry will win, it won't be as one-sided I hope.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭CuriosityKilledtheCat


    Can't make it to Castlebar this evening - is the game on tv?



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