Heavyweight Boxing

squinn2912 · 08-02-2023 11:31PM

Whyte Joshua is a decent contest and there’ll be a good card. Fight it at Wembley. No belt. Assuming joshua comes through that then why not fight wilder? It’s a huge draw and he has a decent chance. He won’t beat fury or Usyk. What else is left?

walshb · 09-02-2023 11:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120217985#Comment_120217985

Whyte was pants at his best, and is now clearly past his best....he's completely washed up. Useless.

I'd expect even a past his best (more timid AJ) to do a number on him. It's an absolute nothing fight.

It's up there (although not as pathetic) as Fury-Chisora III

OmegaGene · 09-02-2023 12:14PM

when was the last time whyte actually came out and impressed anyone, he couldn’t stop laughing at wilder getting beaten by fury which made a funny clip

yourdeadwright · 09-02-2023 01:23PM

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Whyte is done , he is toast,

I never thought about it before but if we recall he was caught with something in his system after the Rivas fight ,Since then he has been absolutely shocking , Could be coincidence

walshb · 09-02-2023 01:27PM

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Yep, and if we even consider his ONLY chance here, a KO shot: I don't think he even possesses the type of spark-delivery needed to get it

AJ should beat him every rd and then take him out mid rds.....

squinn2912 · 09-02-2023 09:53PM

I dunno. I was at the Rivas fight and he was just ok that night. Lazy.

take povetkin, whyte was all over him as washed up as he was. Was he less impressive than joshua against povetkin? Joshua might just have the belief he has his number so he could fight better. Whyte may not have that belief in which case he’s not even gonna be as good. But it’s about as competitive as you can get outside Wilder or possibly Joyce and he’s not gonna fight them

OmegaGene · 09-02-2023 09:55PM

Aj said it’s all about the money, he is a prize fighter after all

he was then asked if he’s glad to be back at the o2 and he said nah not really he prefers Wembley innit

he seems different in his interviews today, no talk of titles or legacy

Bobby Baccala · 09-02-2023 10:42PM

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Funny thing is he probably means the stadium and not the smaller Wembley arena as deluded as he is , he’ll probably sell out the o2 but only because it’s in London where I imagine the last of his fan base is.

09-02-2023 10:51PM

Whyte Franklin was bizarre. Whytes coach just kept telling him to defend and jab despite the fact the scorecard was close. They had no desire to attack.

He's been really poor since Rivas as mentioned above.

Both Franklin and Whyte should be fairly handy fights for AJ.

OmegaGene · 09-02-2023 10:57PM

i didn’t hear anymore about Whytes positive test from the Rivas fight, Eddie was talking about a b sample for a while and then nothing

squinn2912 · 10-02-2023 12:12AM

Hmm who was it he fought after that on the joshua Ruiz undercard and he was a fat mess but won on points?

I don’t think there’s a lot between him and Joshua

OmegaGene · 10-02-2023 08:23AM

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After Rivas Whyte went on to fight mariusz wach on the Aj card and that was a terrible fight

whyte then went on to get sparked out by povetkin, who then got covid and had serious health issues with Whyte claiming he was ducking him

whyte beat him in the rematch and it was claimed he was back to his best, povetkin retired because of his long covid issues (I think) then we had fury knock him out with and a strange tussle with Franklin where Whyte was told not to go for the knock out for some reason.

i like Whyte but when you look at his career as a boxer he’s not great, he’s entertaining though

walshb · 10-02-2023 09:34AM

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Whyte has went downhill fast the past few years. His fights in 2018 and 2019 and 2020 and 2021 are a long time ago. He has looked awful his last 2 fights. AJ is on the slide, yes, but he should have far too much v Whyte.

blade1 · 10-02-2023 10:12AM

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If AJ let's go he should have him out of there in no time.

Anything but an early night for AJ should add even more embarrassment on him.

OmegaGene · 10-02-2023 10:37AM

aj is the more disciplined of the two and more powerful boxer, whyte lets his anger change his fights and the street fighter in him comes out very quickly

10-02-2023 02:58PM

I used to enjoy Whytes fights for the entertainment also. He had a good run after the AJ loss.

But he's looked really poor for the most part since Rivas. And I just don't see what he has to trouble any top opponents.

Ironically, I thought he looked back in good shape and form against Povekin just minutes before he was dropped.

squinn2912 · 10-02-2023 03:18PM

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That’s the point I’m making, povetkin outfoxed him with a brilliantly set up move. He had that fight in the bag. His own laziness and bad habits have cost him a lot. I think he raises his game for Joshua. Neither are going that well. If he’s that bad then Fury has really picked his last two opponents and conned us all.

walshb · 10-02-2023 03:39PM

But, this is here and now, 2023. Not a few years ago when Whyte was better. He was abysmal in his last two fights. Last time he looked decent was Povetkin II, against a cleary washed up Povetkin

Maybe I am being too harsh on him, but at his best he wasn't all that good. I am not alone in this view. He has made an absolute killing based off being knocked out years ago by AJ. Since this loss he beat nobody worth a damn, and was beaten clearly every time he stepped up, and one those losses was a KO against a washed-up Povetkin

squinn2912 · 10-02-2023 04:30PM

Yea I get that but both of them have declined. He’s still game at self while joshua has looked afraid recently. I guess there isn’t much to suggest he should be beating joshua but my argument is that it’s a decent fight and test for Joshua.

blade1 · 10-02-2023 05:05PM

Stuck a fiver on Joshuav Franklin to make it a bit interesting

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reclose · 10-02-2023 09:09PM

I think Hearn did a great job making Whyte out to be a higher standard than he actually is.

probably a fringe top 10 at his best but was never a serious challenger.

OmegaGene · 10-02-2023 09:13PM

He waited 1000 days for a title shot 🤣 his videos with Kugan on ifltv have been funny over the years but he’s not been the same lately, wether that’s because he’s living abroad or the fact he’s on the decline I don’t know

normanoffside · 10-02-2023 09:21PM

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I'm one of those who has been saying Whyte was terrible forever. Who was his best win? Derek Chisora? Lucas Browne? Dave Allen? I have never seen anything above European level in him. He Bullied and fouled Joe Parker and almost still got knocked out in the last round. He has never been impressive.

I remember posting here after Joe Joyce's debut fight that Joyce would beat Whyte there and then.

reclose · 10-02-2023 09:28PM

Not to mention his brother who’s not his brother 😂

squinn2912 · 10-02-2023 09:48PM

I’m not a fan but he’s beaten Chisora twice, Helenius, Wach, Povetkin and Parker. Those are all credible wins. Joyce was having an even enough contest with Parker until the last round or two. I think Joyce is better than whyte too now but people go on like he’s amazing. Don’t see that.

normanoffside · 10-02-2023 11:06PM

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Chisora is/was British level and Whyte went life and death with him, Helenius got sparked in 1 by Wilder, Wach is muck, Povetkin was washed and still knocked him out. Parker was his best win but if you watch it back Parker was in control until Whyte knocked him down with a headbutt/Elbow, then Parker eventually came back after being very passive in the middle rounds to almost have a gassing Whyte out in the last.

Joyce always looked in control, never in trouble and was always coming on strong against Parker.

Whyte has never had been a good boxer, isn't particularly big or strong, has questionable fitness and engine, not much of a punch or chin. Fundamentally he has not much going for him.

ebbsy · 11-02-2023 12:00PM

Looking at the latest AJ interviews, it looks to me like he is just back for a few easy paydays.

I do not think he will hold a world title again.

In fact he might lose to Franklin ?

squinn2912 · 11-02-2023 01:04PM

I get your point and I’m not putting him (currently) in top 5. Parker has gone backwards since then too. But no one ridiculed Helenius for getting the shot with wilder etc etc. Whyte is or has been a decent opponent for a champ or contender

walshb · 11-02-2023 02:02PM

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If he loses to Franklin he’s screwed. I expect he wins handily. Franklin is not that good.

OmegaGene · 11-02-2023 02:06PM

Aj should not lose to Franklin

franklin can punch but he’s not a banger/knock out artist

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