General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

The "tribal bias" is currently trending very highly on twitter right now.

Some things never change.

that 3 windows, 70million per window.

For a PL club, in this day and age.... that is standard. and for the number of players they signed (replaced entire backline, keeper, new striker, winger, midfielder and maybe others I am not thinking of.... an average of less than 30m per player. Again, for a PL club that ain't big. And they were 19th when he took over. Howe has not enjoyed anything like the mad windows people assumed PIF were going to fund.

Newcastle have, imo, spent an amount and brought in players that are broadly in line with what you would have expected of a PL club of their stature, prior to Saudi money.

And key players, such as Lonstaff, Almiron, Jolinton, ASM, Wilson were there before, and have been rejuvinated under Howe.

To go from where they were, to where they are. How they were playing to how they do now (when they want to....) is a credit to Howe. As I say, there isn't many in that squad I would take over a player at United. And I am sure many different club fans would say the same.

I didn't mean to imply he has spent nothing, but the change in their fortunes under him, for the money spent, and the players brought in, is a credit to him.

I think u'll find in football & in life people done for sexual assault are treated far more harshly

You won't find anyone cheering on Adam Johnson or Mendy ,

Ye true he didn't get done in court but everyone seen the picture & heard the voice note ,he should never play professional football again,

Do you think he should return to the United squad ?

He should have his contract terminated. Everyone who heard the audio knows he's guilty, and getting off on a technicality doesn't change that. He won't play for England again, and he shouldn't play for a PL club again. Paddy Jackson and the rest wouldn't get an opportunity at an Irish side after their rape acquittal, and it ought to be the same treatment for Greenwood.

If he tries to have a career in England, he'll get major abuse from away fans and I can see a lot of fans of clubs linked with him wanting nothing to do with him. He'll probably get a big offer from Saudi Arabia or thereabouts. There were plenty of comments from fans in that part of the world who didn't see what the fuss was about in the first place.

I do find the acceptance of the Chelsea spending a bit funny, if I'm honest.

Actually, I don't want to say it's 'acceptance' per se, but the money thrown around has been dealt with in an almost jovial fashion. Not an awful lot is being made of it, other than a couple of snide remarks about FFP.

I couldn't be further from an apologist for Newcastle or Manchester City, but if they'd have done what Chelsea have just done, the football world and it's fans would be in relative meltdown. we (me included) would be throwing all the shade in the world at the wall of morally repugnant money that is being thrown at these football clubs in the name of sportswashing, and bemoaning the lack of action against those bad, bad Saudis.

Venture captialism = fine

Oil money = bad

Sexual asault is a lot more serious offence than drink or dangerous driving

someone who is one or 2 drinks over limit , and doesnt cause a fatality or serious injury , is a far less offence than sexual assault - and I'm sure victims of sexual assault would disagree with your comment.

Ok well how about would you feel if it was your daughter he did that to? We all saw the photos and heard the recording so we know what happened.

Would you sit there and say ah sure he hasn't been convicted, he's a grand chap Mary. Not a thing wrong with him, I'll have him over for a pint later.

Also the trial didn't proceed because she withdrew her statement. I'd imagine she's been paid off or something along those lines.

Yea that was extremely strange.

Knowing a famous person/having them around the house etc meaning more to you than your own daughters welfare. Fairly sickening.

Given what I saw and heard and if it was my son involved he'd never be welcome under my roof again. I have zero tolerance for anyone who could treat a woman/partner like that.

I was was warned as a small child to never raise a hand to my mother or any woman and that stuck with me. My children will be raised the same way.

You are right it is a fact that he won't be convicted of the offence.

It is also a fact the pictures exist.

It is also a fact the recording exists.

The threshold of evidence for bringing a prosecution for these types of offences can be quite high in cases where it would appear the alleged victim doesn't want to proceed. The rights and wishes of the victim come in to play for consideration. It doesn't mean nothing happened. I would be surprised if Utd reintroduced him to the first team squad.