Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Government are exhibiting an urgency and ingenuity re migrant accommodation that I've never seen deployed towards their own people. There are simply no limits on what they'll do for them

So he is basically saying that communities don't want refugee centers in their area and his answer is basically this is inconvenient and thus better off not consulting because of this.

Democracy when it suits Roderic?

Only legitimate and democratic "consultation" is via a referendum, not this shambles of "discussions" with the community. On that ballot will be one question: Do you want further unlimited immigration or not? YES or NO.

Put it to the people and then most of us win or lose will have our faith restored in democracy

If they don’t give us those things it will just get worse and very nasty

Thats just how our government operates though:

EG:

If your against gay marriage your a homophobe.

Against Abortion your a backwards church nut.

Don't want Irish neutrality threatened - you love russia.

They love to stand on one side of the division and use it to quell any argument, and they can, because our backwards system of party whips and brown envelope independents means they can do what they want. Ie Sealing the mother and baby home records. We allow them away with that crap. Always have, always will.

Anyone listening to Pat Kenny? Fair play to facts been aired.

40% with false or no documents came here last year. Asylum seekers interviewed said the only reason they come here is because they can work after 6 months and get official papers .

A good few interviewed came from the UK.

Appears we have an open border policy at the moment.

And even better was later when they interveiwed women protestors.

One it turns out is married to an African so there goes the chance of labeling her a racist.

Then the interviewer asked her how he came here and she replied he kept his documents.

Now the likelihood is they may not have had visa and they did claim asylum?

Then another women was saying they have no idea who these men are.

Of course interviewer went to plan B and said how they could be fleeing warzones, to which the woman piped up and said

"how come it is only the young men, what about the women and children in these warzones"?

No answer from interviewer.

The people are wising up and asking the questions with the inconvenient answers.

Have to say Kenny is it seems the only one setting out to really debate this.

Earlier on Newstalk you had muppets debating how Welsh Rugby have stopped choir singing "Bye Bye Deliah" because it is misogynistic or some such.

Then lad pipes up about ELO's "Devil Woman" and how it is misogynistic.

So it aint Newstalk that is finally seeing the light it is Kenny himself.

And is there any chance McDowell could resurrect a party again.

He would get my vote.

I don’t understand what “initially refused to disembark” means. Are these just the numbers where an officer stood at the steps of the plane? If it is, does that mean that the actual number without documentation is a lot higher?

That's emigration. This is fleeing a life and death situation.

On the Titanic women and children went first, fleeing a life and death situation.

In a hotel near me it was all women and children that arrived in one of the first waves of refugees from Ukraine, fleeing a life and death situation.

Indeed. What is the character of these men who i) leave the women and children behind and ii) destroy their documentation?

So for each of these single men who enter the country, are you saying that there are on average at least two more who will come over to join them?

Yes, in fact. Many of the 'single young men' are not single at all and are trying to pave a way for their families to join them. But this probably more an issue with people making the dangerous crossing across the English Channel to England in dinghies, than people coming to Ireland on board aircraft. A breakdown of the Irish stats for 2021 showed that there was an almost 50-50 split between men and women/children making asylum claims.

Jasus I would have imagined Cormac or Fergal would have given one of those newly arrived lads, most of them via Belfast BTW, Fergal interviewed on drivetime a bed for the night with all the emoting out of them.. But no too cowardly to ask any searching questions like a proper journalist might

Did anybody see the bit on RTE's website earlier this evening about 180,000 refugees being in Ireland by the end of this year? If it's true it's downright scary. The country really cannot deal with that.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0202/1353426-refugee-prediction/

Not surprising. The government previously told us that the large scale influx of migrants is permanent so we can expect this every year going forward. I’d be more worried that this ambitious policy is being carried out without planning.