Club Championships 2022/23

20 seconds is what's recommended in the referee's handbook to complete substitutions and 9 seconds had passed. Are you suggesting the referee's handbook should be ignored?

No he's a pundit who's role is for the most part to generate text revenue

I see Paddy Power have it listed for Saturday 11th Feb, 5pm. Did GAA announce that?

The ref should be timing substitutions. Otherwise how can how too little or too much time be defined when making a substitution?

From the referees handbook - examples of deliberate delays:

• Excessive time taken in making substitutions.

If the subs aren't timed then there's no such thing as 'excessive time taken'.

The fourth officials job is to manage substitutions, but you're arguing that adding and subtracting numbers on and off isn't part of this.

The player picked the man up because the ref allowed play to continue prematurely, before the substitution could be completed in the allowable time, written as 20seconds in the referees handbook.

This is where following rules to the letter of the law leads.

Number 19 ran on and on the 24 second mark in the video he was about 4 yards away from Dara Mullin. The sub didn't seem to make any attempt to signal to Mullin to go off. He just turned to face play, and Mullin was stationed on the goal line. The referee raised his hand for play to restart when he saw that the sub was given enough time to settle into his position. The 45 was taken 3 seconds after the sub turned around to face play. Mullin had no intention of leaving the field. There doesn't seem to be any communication to him from his team to do so. The rule is that a team can't have more than 15 players on the field, and it is the teams responsibility to ensure that. Otherwise there are the specific penalties for not abiding by that. And that is what happened here.

One interesting point - there are references in some of the posts about the 20 seconds for substitutions per the refs handbook. But what is the position on a double substitution in the same break of play - should the ref allow for 40 seconds. I don't know the answer. In this case, based on the video, Kilmacud got at least 28 seconds for the double substitution.

it was an oversight. A stupid one.

the oversight had zero bearing on the result.

its indeed the official’s responsibility to manage / oversee subs…

so there is shared culpability.

if it was a Offaly team vs a Cavan team…..this would be a footnote in the match report. That’s if it was mentioned…Nothing more. No drama, in the media or Croke Park. Regardless of the result. You’d swear going by the drama and overreaction that the extra man was on for 20 minutes, and scored 1-3 and saved a certain goal chance such is the disingenuous reaction by the drama llamas.

because there is a Dublin team involved, “ sure they’ve so many advantages up there already, now a team with an extra man for all of XX seconds ? ……………R E P L A Y !” Nothing but an attempt to undermine a successful team from Dublin. It’s worked in fairness.

Glen come out of this in a bad light, a seriously unsporting complaint. If they saw the oversight as having influenced the result, or was even deliberately engineered .. ? Object and complain away… that’s not what happened, the oversight which is all it was lasted seconds and had ZERO impact on the result.

but as a result 70+ minutes more…

Glen favourites for me. Psychologically they’ve been given a second bite at the cherry. Kilmacud won, then lost, it all…. Screwed over in fact….they’ll be low as the ocean floor… some job picking up and motivating to be done… hopefully they get a bit of extra support on the day, they deserve it.

To be fair, that poster is known for their extremely myopic views on anything Dublin GAA.

I remember some frankly hilarious meltdowns from the same after Dublin defeats, sorry 'injustices'.