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Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭buried


    No idea what the Hell you are on about buck, but glad you're entertained, for the time being.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts





  • Dublin's a tiny city. Worried about the resentment that will manifest if people are lingering the streets with no prospects. It's already at simmering point.

    Entirely preventable situation, probably the most incapable senseless Government in the history of the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Ya many of us are old enough to remember when the Bishops are clergy were losing power....there wasn't a sniff of it in the media or the political arena at the time. You remind me of those fanatic Catholics that used to sit at the front of the church...they were the last one's to cop on that the church was getting emptier and emptier...no one was listening to them anymore!!

    You think you are modern and progressive no doubt...just like the Catholics sitting at the front of the church did too!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,163 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The rise of the right is part of the package when the country has disastrous immigration 'policies' unfortunately. The refugee crisis we now have is part of the same package.

    It is sad to see where the country is going really. It's happening so quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 LaoisWeather


    A genuinely provoking post if there was ever one. It seems some on here are thrilled to see hoards of unvetted migrants streaming in through the ports and airports as a mere joke to have "one up" on their fellow countryman. The country can go to hell in a handbasket for all they care, as long as they get one up on the natives they oppose. They'd exchange 100,000 migrants for one Irishman/woman objecting to it. They have hatred for Ireland - or more to the point, contempt for native Irish people. I often read Irish history and wondered how there were no shortage of "Irish" quislings happy for London rule to reign over Ireland. They haven't gone away you know.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    I suppose all these men are liberal feminists so?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,260 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Unfortunately its becoming increasingly likely that untill there's a similar display of "disagreement" in Dublin City Centre as was seen in Citywest, it'll continue to be downplayed and deflected by the Open Doors brigade and the mainstream media outlets.

    I just hope that innocents aren't caught in the middle but that's probably what it'll take before real questions start to be asked, and even then very timidly of the politicians (after all, too many "journalists" are related to, married into, or auditioning for future jobs with those same politicians).

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    The only time Irish citizens have ever voted on an immigration related matter it resulted in a bigger landslide than either the gay marriage or bodily autonomy for women referenda (which I voted yes for both by the way).

    79.1% a pretty overwhelming result by any standards. Gay marriage passed with 62%, bodily autonomy for women 66.4%.

    Have you any thoughts on the current situation of newly arrived asylum seekers being put on the streets? You think things are going well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I wonder what the next policy move will be. Getting it out there that there is no accommodation to be had will slow arrivals but it won't stop it. What then?

    We could easily see more than a doubling of rough sleepers in the next few weeks and a resulting humanitarian and security crisis if there is no policy response. Dublin doesn't even have public toilets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    Incredible radio silence from the ‘let the world in’ brigade.

    So the #IrelandisFull protestors were right all along. I’d say that PBP plonker Gino Kelly will make a full apology to his constituents? Wouldn’t hold your breath…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    when the native “unwell” of the city centre realise these newcomers are competing for scarce homeless resources - well, it won’t be all sweetness and light



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it’s hilarious that you can’t seem to grasp that as people grow up and have to enter the real world, their views drastically change 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    I heard that earlier and it made me angry..........angry because the stupid interviewer never thought of asking why this man left the UK (which is hardly a 3rd world country) to travel to Ireland via Belfast.................. because Ireland has a better economy?? He spoke excellent English and must have heard we have an accommodation crisis before now? Yes he was almost going to fake a few tears at one stage, saying he could die if temperatures dropped to -5. Luckily we are in an extremely mild phase right now.

    But WHY do main stream interviewers NEVER ask why these young single jobless men with no papers are coming to Ireland? I hope they are left to sleep in the streets, then maybe they will take a train back to Belfast and back to the UK. They fully expect accommodation when they arrive here, they are chancers, economic migrants who will never do a day's work!!

    What is the plan here? If the same number of people arrive every single day from now on, and there is no accommodation, are they just going to wander around the country, robbing, fighting , and feeling we all owe them? What is going to happen in the next week or month?

    Meanwhile the headlines on RTE 6 O clock news was nominations for the Oscars, it went on for a good 10 minutes! Then Paschal and his posters................



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,260 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I will not be surprised if those natives are pushed aside in favour of the new arrivals - just as has been the case elsewhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    It's an absolute joke when you actually think about it, if current numbers continue there'll be 600+ asylum seekers sleeping rough on the streets of Dublin within 4 weeks. In the middle of Winter.

    Then we'll have many hotels reverting to tourism in March. Thousands of beds gone.

    I think I read that they've got plans to build a total of 800 modular homes in 2023 but that won't even accommodate a fraction of the 70k plus that came in 2022, let alone the same number we are told that will arrive in 2023.



  • Posts: 390 [Deleted User]


    Genuinely think the announcement will result in more arrivals not less, people will think the drawbridge is being pulled up or that the Government will make the regulations more stringent going forward and will try to squeeze in.

    Announcement itself is weak, its like please don't take advantage of us but we're not going to do anything if you do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Newstalk was actually unbelievable earlier with Kieran Cuddihy . They roll out GAA star Philly McMahon who says he’s speaking for the majority of Ballymun people when he says the people out there are now seeing through the “far right “ people who are not from the area and the same people against refugees are the very same people that are against abortion and LGBTQ so are not worried about the women of Ireland . He also says he likes to call the men getting off the buses unaccompanied instead of single as they more than likely have families at home . Some amount of horse shite spoken . Not a mention of city west .


    And unfortunately what made me laugh at how outrageously blatant the whole thing was , the next segment was on how people should show better manners and he cut to people on the street giving their opinion . Shockingly the very first person asked said “ we should be more welcoming to refugees “


    Absolute embarrassment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    150 per week will be hitting the streets now according to the news tonight

    600 per month 7000 in a year

    there will be large crowds of homeless congregating on the streets and it can’t be hidden



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭buried


    In 2007 the likes of Fine Gael's party members such as Leo Varadkar laid out in their General Election priorities and promises the implementation of "Proper Immigration and Integration Policies". They used the very same concern to gain votes, nobody called that "the rise of the right" or disgraceful? They gained an extra 19 seats. What changed since then? Why is that priority and promise that was basically an establishment and citizen priority back then, so vilified now? That's what is sad here, genuine citizens concerns being turned into SS officer's concerns. What for?

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,924 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Heard it, Philly should stick to the football, obviously he's been coached what to say In that interview, full of buzzwords, it's actually sad



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,260 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    EU subservience,money, and populist grandstanding on Twitter with the end game being to move up into the real gravy train in Brussels or the speaking circuit/lobbyist set like some others before them.

    Post edited by _Kaiser_ on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I don’t know why you are commenting at length on something you are ignorant of.

    Almost everything you have posted as fact is incorrect.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I heard some of philly Mahon earlier.

    Absolute tosh, he was parroting phrases he clearly didn’t understand.

    He may be able to kick a ball but he should stay away from discussing current affairs as he was very much out of his depth and showing his ignorance live on a national radio show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Great stuff by Philly. Completely right and great to see it triggered the exact types he was talking about. lol

    He is indeed very popular and speaks for the area more than the old far right farts with an agenda. Great to see the grass roots people in an area saying it like it is and of course seeing that it struck a nerve with those types he was talking about on here is quite entertaining.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    nail on head. It was cringeworthy stuff listening to him trying to remember the buzz words to parrot off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,500 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The tide is turning just you wait.

    Yes, yes preputial rage posting on the internet will turn that tide alright. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 LaoisWeather


    A journalist in Ireland cannot operate here effectively without being a member of the NUJ Union. At their Annual Delegate Conference (ADM) in Portrush, Northern Ireland back in 1979 the NUJ was effectively took over by left and hard-left elements and this bias has been growing ever stronger in recent decades. Over 70 Irish journalists left the NUJ in protest and any that remained and protested from within about being censored or told how to write on certain topics were effectively frozen out of their jobs.

    One journalist a few years later in 1981 took the NUJ to the courts over their stance, however the union paid up on the steps of court and the case never got in front of a judge. It's a pity alot more didn't do this, but then again money was tight in those days to mount a challenge.

    Fast forward a few decades and you see how the NUJ effectively has become a left-wing and at times hard-left circle-jerk with very little room for alternative view points save a token opinion piece from the likes of Doherty and O'Brien who are barely entertained to give the aura of faux impartiality.

    All major media outlets in Ireland are of a hive mind and listening, watching or reading from any selection of them and you'll be reading/hearing/seeing the same slant over and over and over. Watch one national news programme in Ireland today and you've seen them all, listen to one radio news broadcast today and you've heard them all, ditto for whichever national newspaper you'd foolishly part your €2.50 for - again same headlines, same news, same conclusions.

    As long as the government is doing what is approved of from within the ranks of the NUJ there will never be tough questions asked. SF started getting popular coverage/less hostility from the Irish media when it pivoted away from it's Eurosceptic stance, promoted mass immigration and went progressive on social issues.

    The media machine in Ireland is stronger than the Catholic Church ever was. You are dead right when you say "too many "journalists" are related to, married into, or auditioning for future jobs with those same politicians" they get rewarded for their loyalty to the system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,260 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    No need for that. It'll be more "displays of gratitude" and willingness to count their blessings and move on from the conflicts of the past in their new safe haven (like we saw last night) that will turn the tide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 palette


    Meanwhile, back on earth, seeing as it has been directly stated several times now by politicians that we are full and have no accommodation for anyone else, they should act on that fact immediately and halt all inward migration.

    Don't you agree?

    Or what do you propose should happen immediately given its a crisis?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,500 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Oh okay, have you joined any groups yourself, gone on any marches?

    Anything tangible at all apart from rage posting?



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