Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

That they should be the main arbitrators in their reproductive health.

You got me. 🤷‍♂️

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/01/17/fintan-otoole-far-right-agitators-must-be-cut-off-from-local-communities-by-facts/

The IT doing their job with a headlines that incorporate "far-right", "element" and "misinformation" - top marks for Fintan ;-) Not bothered to read it but he'll get extra points for weaving in commentary about how we'd all be better off if we stopped noticing that lots of earnest FFG public servants are being forced to resign after being caught out for "not following best practices". We'd also be better off if we drove out that dangerous "investigative journalism" element from The Ditch.

Paschal is such a decent chap after all. Tell us more about all those "boooks", podcadsts and box sets, LOL! 

You also took away from the post.

What was the name of the button you pressed to “add to the post”?

You are not worth debating if you are going to act in bad faith.

As an Irish female, I believe I may be in both the racist and the feeling like cattle camps according to your observations. I also am friends with some celibate males. Clearly, I'm not reliable in forming judgments and will lean heavily on Boggles to continue with his unauthorised opinions on the fertility choices of Irish women. As a childless, male he, no doubt is best placed in this regard. I'll sit here meekly wearing my herd number and read Uncle Toms Cabin.

Just wondered if our rather large contribution to Foreign Aid via the taxpayer will get a "credit" or reduction now that we appear to be subbing those that Foreign Aid was designed to assist - here in this country also.

I have no issue with Foreign Aid from a wealthy country like Ireland, but realistically it would appear that we donate millions to Foreign Aid, and millions to arrange settlement here for those leaving countries to which Foreign Aid applies.

Is it fair or am I missing some fundamental issue with this? I do understand that Foreign Aid is international and AFAIK based on GDP or something like that.

Maybe he's unvetted and military aged.

By their logic, hospitals are far from full either; after all, you can squeeze people into the carpark, into toilet cubicles, into the coffee shop etc. This is the logic of this thoughtless "argument."

This guy fails to realize that the level of services each person is now entitled to has increased hundred-fold since 1860. The issue is not space per se, but the level of services that a higher population commands. If we were bringing in the brightest and the best, then that could work, sure, but welfare tourists (by definition) consume more than they produce and only exacerbate existing resource constraints.

In the UK, the money the gov spends on hotels etc for asylum seekers is taken out of their aid budget, but you could hardly expect such reasonable policy from our lot. Full and abject subservience to foreign bodies is the driving force of their policy agenda

Before you use it as an argument to suggest Government policy on immigration is the issue, I’d suggest you use it instead to argue that the lack of Government investment in public services is the underlying reason for the lack of resources Ireland has been experiencing for decades.

You probably won’t fit all that on a snazzy banner though.

So what did one of our leading public intellectuals have to say? The thrust of Fintan O'Toole's article was that the protestors actually had no issues with the refugees or their impact on wages, public services, the housing crisis etc. Rather, they are merely a shower of embittered malcontents releasing pent-up anger from the failed abortion referendum, the failure of nationalism, and the inexorable decline in Catholicism. You really couldn't make this stuff up.

Sounds like he hit the nail on the head TBH.

Add in Anti-Vax, Covd and WEF conspiracies and you have the full house. 👍️

You know nothing of Fintan O'Toole if you envisage him writing anything like that...

So the EU have been forced to act on passengers* turning up at destination airports having "lost" their own passports. They are proposing to repeal the 2004 API Directive, and replace it with two regulations. The API directive imposes an obligation on air carriers to transmit, “upon request” passenger data to the Member State of destination prior to the flight’s take-off, for flights in-bound from a third country to improve border controls and combat illegal immigration.”

API or Advanced Passenger Information is the biographical information collected by airlines at the moment of check in. This is stored in the airlines systems and sent to border control authorities of destination countries. "API data contains information which allows authorities to confirm the identity of passengers."

It looks like under the bould Helen McEntee that border control authorities of Ireland have not requested passenger API despite having the powers to do so. Is anyone surprised?

But the EU proposal is looking to make transmitting this data mandatory. it will introduce "Mandatory API data collection for the purposes of border management and combating irregular immigration on all flights entering the Union (including those travelling on business aviation and charter flights)."

According to the Dept of Justice: "It is envisaged that the regulations will be adopted by 2025. Secondary legislation will be adopted by 2028 and entry into operation in 2030. Overall, an 8 year implementation period is envisaged."

So these and similar "passengers" have another 8 years to keep on "losing" travel documents before getting off the plane.

*There are many other terms that could be used to describe these individuals, but in order not to give those who want to have this discussion shut down any possible ammunition I'm using passengers.

Well, you could, and I’d understand why you might argue that as a solution IF I thought your little group were actually operating with a shared brain cell.

I don’t think that’s the case though. Far more likely is simply the case that you’re operating under the impression you represent the people you claim to represent, when in actual fact you don’t.

That’s why it’s entirely up to you to keep chanting “Get them out!” outside refugee accommodation, like the classy bunch you are, and have Government continue to ignore you because nobody wants anything to do with you so politicians aren’t the least bit concerned about their re-election prospects, and they can continue to make silly proposals like housing refugees in plastic containers (how long do you think it’d be before numbnuts propose doing the same for everyone seeking accommodation?)…

OR, or…

You could realise that due to an increasing population, which is only going in one direction, whether by natural increase or by immigration, Government which should have been heavily investing in public services and infrastructure like schools, hospitals, etc should have gotten their finger out decades earlier, and there’s an even greater incentive and imperative upon them to do it now.

Or you could keep cribbing about refugees who aren’t using any resources and aren’t putting any pressure on public services, but they’re just unsightly in neighbourhoods which have fcukall resources and aren’t going to get any any time soon as a result of your groups efforts, never mind actually being consulted about who has the right to live in their neighbourhood.

”Ask the communities for their consent and wait until they’re prepared to handle it” 😂

What sort of la-la land must you imagine you’re living in to think ANYONE has the right to determine who their neighbours are, or whether they have the right to be consulted about refugees being accommodated in private accommodation, or being able to avail of access to public schools, public hospitals, etc? You didn’t have that right before, you’re sure as hell not entitled to it now 😒