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Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Where would a lad look for an old but working tine grab?

    Just needed for branches and the like.

    Ideally to fit a Grays Loader but hooks could be changed I suppose.

    Are they a thing that's thrown in everyone's yard now but that nobody sells?

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    What are contractors charging per hour with a 2500g tank..€65/hr??

    Doing the figures for myself here ballpark I'd have 150k gallons to go out..say they get 2 loads out per hour I'm looking at 60 loads, 30 hours@65 is €1950 allow a bit extra time and agitating I'd be looking at around €2500 - €3000 per year for slurry.. if I got the 60 percent grant I'd be looking at 7-8 years before I break even on the tank, without counting my own labour,diesel or running costs.

    Looking very like I need a reliable contractor and look after him..thing is not too many around here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    Same thing happening and about to happen with solar panels and collars.for the cows...even the bloody robot scrapers have gone up about 6k in the last 18 months..no material what so ever in them..chips and batteries have gone up but still it's gouging I'd say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Way better value. I thinks it's better value to buy an agitator and mix it yourself and get the contractor to spread it. I had a notion of buying a tank with a dribble bar but I wouldn't have the time to work it myself. I got a contractor in with pipes and they spread 84K gallons in 6 hours. With a 2,250 gallon tank. That'd take 2/3 days work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭hopeso


    I don’t know, but I suppose everyone looks at it differently. Those 7 or 8 years will go by very quickly. If 8 years is a third of the tankers life doing your own work, you have a tanker for the next 16 years after that costing little or nothing.

    How much would the annual finance repayment be on the tanker over 5 years? If you subtract the contractor’s charges from that every year, it will make it a lot less. Also, say the contractor is costing €65/hr at the moment, there’s every possibility that will increase year on year. It may well be double what it is now in 10 years time.

    Finally, depending on your ground type, and how important timing of spreading slurry is in your system, only you can put a financial figure on what it’s worth to you to be able to spread on the day you choose to…..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    No grant if in dero as its a legal requirement to spread with LESS. Is it the same now for anyone stocked over 150?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Is it in one block for the most part? If most of it would be going out in the spring see if there is someone with an umbilical, would knock it out in no time with very little damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    No unfortunately it would all be going on the road, mostly about 1k over the road.. would like to get some to land 10 miles away but that's probably not cost effective



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    I think there is one with a 3000g tank but I'm not aware of an outfit really set up for the job..it's suffering alright in fairness but it's only 22 acres in small fields, it's not ideal for big machinery and they not really interested in small jobs like that...so I've been trying to replace it with ground nearer home but haven't had any joy on that front either..will need to do something, doing something with ditches to remodel the place and make it more workable is nearly a non runner with new rules around replacing hedges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Have a contracting business here along with my own slurry hence why I'm looking down the route of my own tanker,There is any amount of work for a handish size tanker around here with smaller farmers needing LESS spreading but with smaller yards not allowing big outfits to manover, Currently it's near impossible to get a few loads out with most lads with tankers for hire only wanting to come in once a year to empty all the tanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Noticing here a few lads going away from pipes. Have them in for the first spread. Cover 60 acres or that then the rest with tankers after the cows. 10 to 30 acres at a time. Say once a fortnight or that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Yes that's why I am in out shopping. Still in grant approval but over 150 so its use it or lose it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I got the umbilical in here last year but I am all small paddocks with original ditches between. The umbilical was far more expensive than a tanker would have been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    I see some lads hire in a separator for slurry, could take the solids to outfarm and and spread liquid section closer to home. Don't know the cost or nutrient breakdown mind.

    Find the pipes a good job here, but do use the tankers a bit as well for smaller volumes or on the outfarm. Same as everything manpower is catching contractors as well so that is an issue as well in fairness.

    No cheap way of doing anything these days really, only try and find a route that works for you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    On the separator. The one that's doing the rounds is 3 phase. So if you haven't 3 phase you may hire in a 3 phase generator too. Probably if you were pumping it to a tower or similar you could run a pump off the genny.

    Everything is money now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Bought our own tanker this year and delighted we did

    slurry was being dumped with different umbilical crews, grew savage grass last spring with the slurry we put out in January

    will be doing the same next week


    does take up time but the job is done right and no 5 k gallons landed out to get the job done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    Maybe it would be possible, have a nice bit if dung not spread last year so might look at getting that down there when weather permits. I won't have a massive amount if dung going forward as everything on cubicles or slats now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    I'm one of those smaller farmers, can handle the bigger gear ok, but it's having them in to spread all in a day is no good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,100 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Its trailing shoes that are really bonkers, priced a 9 metre here for tank no fitting needed, as tank is set up for a 3 point linkage mounted set-up was quoted 27k incl vat, their was a 3500 gallon hispec in the yard at the time with the 9m trailing shoe on 710 tyres and a few other extras was sold for 85k, machinery trade is definitely starting to soften though, looking at prices over in the UK fresh up in the years tractors and loaders are down 10-15k in prices quoted compared to last year



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,847 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    How much do you want to spend? Have you looked on DD?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/all?words=tine+grab

    Seems to be a reasonable quicke in Cork for 450.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,100 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    It's a risky business letting in a contractor on a dairy farm with slurry contaminated gear especially if going dribble/trailing shoe and grazing 3-4 weeks after application, you could be importing everything from bvd/salmonella/lepto and the biggest one T.B, would put out 70 gallons plus a day around yard with 2500 gallon tank here in 8-9 hours , have a 12000 litre jurop pump on her, makes a huge difference to workrate, 3 mins to fill her in normal slurry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Would there be really that much of a risk of disease



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭cute geoge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭hopeso


    Even if it got approved here for farms with under so many livestock units or something it would be a huge advantage for smaller farmers with land that can't stand up to modern machinery. Not to mention the cost benefit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    The Germans seem to be great at making rules for everybody else but themselves..aren't they firing up a fair few coal powered power stations, while Eamonn is telling us to leave the turf in the bogs.. the moscha would be great for us lads with the 1100g to 1600g tanks that can't justify retrofit trailing shoes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭straight


    I bought one too. It's a bit of work alright but I'm getting away better value from my slurry which is very important in this day and age. I wouldn't be bothering the contractor for following the cows and parlour washings and the like. Alot of slurry just gets dumped to get the tanks empty with contractors. Also I dilute my tanks now with parlour washings and I turn the rainwater into them to stretch the slurry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭straight


    I'd be blaming our own crowd before the Germans. The problem with the moscha is that the farmer wouldn't be spending enough money...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Moscha is a great job. Madness that it isn't some sort of go between. Real different between it and a splashplate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    Maybe so but it's like we are so guilty about our corporate tax rate that we give in to every other rule from Europe/Germany, where they aren't necessarily as strict on themselves..


    Agree on farmer not spending enough



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,254 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I have only a small beef operation I never find an issue with contractors spreading slurry. However it a LESS system on a tanker. But I tell them the number of tanks per paddock/field.

    They spread one tank 50 k gallons for first cut and second tank 30 k gallons for second cut. Costs about 1500 euro I was getting 400 euro back through GLAS less with new rules that is now gone as I am above 150 limit

    Slava Ukrainii



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