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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Subscribers Posts: 43,131 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Jeez.. Chris Farrell had never been the best Irish back on a pitch, except for when he played in France



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,745 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    He had a very good game against Wales in the GS winning season. Made it over the gainline with his carries and was used as a good passing option. Then he did his cruciate in training the following week.

    Never played as well for Ireland after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    The thread has gone so mad that you’d nearly think the 6 nations had already started!

    Bonkers stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Besides the 6N game Vs Wales he was MOTM in...

    Still a silly statement mind.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭naughtyboy


    As of today Johnny Sexton will be remembered as a very good player but a player who never really did it at the elite level.

    at the world cup , 2011 a bench warmer, 2015 injured and 2019 a real stinker.

    The world cup this year is his last chance at redemption , hope he gets it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,682 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Interesting. How many other World Rugby Players of the Year haven’t really done it at the elite level?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I warmly welcome the delegate from the "only games that matter are in a tournament younger than Lady Gaga" preservation society, and sincerely look forward to a spirited, informed debate, during their time here.



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    Very random to use Lady Gaga as your reference point here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,745 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Is Naughtyboy another alt account of Rape of Lucretia? The latter outed himself yesterday in the General Rugby thread.



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,131 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    A lot of the backup props got taken to the cleaners this weekend, Furlong, Porter and Loughman all advanced their Irish spots by not playing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,275 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Harry Byrne did not step up tonight

    he did the opposite imo

    He might be a good 10 in the future, but not now


    Conan was pretty rubbish until the opposition were spent.

    he gave away loads of penalties and made lots of poor decisions.

    The reported depth from Leinster was not that impressive against a poor welsh team

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,745 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    You've been on a roll this weekend. Fair play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Ospreys had 28 scrum penalties won before this contest. How many do the provinces have? They'd have murdered all of the provinces scrum.

    Harry Byrne was very poor. Healy was very poor and Osborne had a shocker. Leinster were poor overall. But, still managed to win.

    Loughman is the biggest winner from tonites match.

    Conan was poor in stages! But, he pulled his jocks up and delivered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Leinster were poor. Akrasia is right! But still, they won.

    Conan was sublime in the last quarter. He's got speed and power. Which was very evident. He put to Ospreys and made hay.

    As I stated earlier, Ospreys are leading the league in scrum penalties. Fat load of good it does for them! They are probably going to be on the bubble. For a side that provides a large amount of international players, they are shockingly disappointing. They had Leinster on the ropes and couldn't finish the job. Leinster have a good 10 minutes or so and win.

    That scrum would demolish any province scrum. Ireland are not getting it right as far as scrummaging goes. I'd guess that Scott Wilson at Ulster is our best bet at tight head at the moment. Munster have produced none, Leinster also and Connacht are using Illo, who went right into the pro set up. In Leinster defense, Aungier left, as did Salanoa and Illo took a guaranteed contract.

    The union should be looking to get better scrumm coaches. It's disappointing to watch our sides struggle against the top teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Still though, going in at half time level after the half Ospreys had, I knew they were going to get hammered. Leinster are a bit like the all blacks used to be in the urc. No matter how bad they play in stretches you know their purple patch can be worth 20 points in ten minutes. RB and Keenan was sublime. Papering over cracks elsewhere but when they click it’s fun to watch.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,275 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I don't care who Leinster pick for their own games. I am interested in how players are selected for the Irish team

    If AF is picking a team based on form and performance ceiling. Jack Conan should not be ahead of Coombes.

    Coombes has shown himself to be a better player in both the 2nd row and the back row

    I'd also have Alex Kendellen ahead of him in the back row. Anyone who's been following him through the Schools and the Under 20s knows how special he is, and he's already had over 30 caps for Munster buy the age of 21.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,745 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Never seen a run of posts quite like this.

    Remarkable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭phily2002


    Conan made over 100 meters yesterday, not too shabby. Coombes got smashed back a lot against a Lions 2nd team.

    Conan was one of the Lions best players and started 3 tests but in fairness that doesn't stand up to Kendellen been good in school...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Yet when Coombes came up to international level, he stunk the place out so badly, they had to fumigate the RDS after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,275 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,275 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The fundamental error that so many posters make is thinking that URC performances are reflective of test level ability. They 100% are not.

    Then when people can't fathom why their pets aren't picked for Ireland, they invent outandish theories to explain it away, and then turn against Ireland and IRFU on that basis.

    It's a bit mad, but TLDR someone like Coombes who has underperformed for Ireland isn't going to be picked again on the basis of displays against the Emirates Lions second string. He needs to get into the wider 6N squad, do the business in training and probably hope for an injury or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    Conan has been nowhere near his Lions standard for the last 2 seasons, maybe yesterday was the catalyst to get back there, as it is he's not the form player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,682 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Here’s the thing tho… Coombes has also done it a number of times at European level against the likes of Toulouse, Clermont etc. as well.

    There’s plenty of reason to believe he has something to offer Ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Agreed, but he has had chances with Ireland since those games and (apparently) not taken them.

    So he's back to square one to some extent. I would expect him to be named in the 6N squad but he'll only get ahead of Conan and whoever else based on what he does in camp.

    My point is that talking about "form" is a bit pointless when most of the games the provinces play are light years from test level.



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