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How to find the studs behind plasterboard wall?

  • 15-04-2022 06:24AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭


    Guys, is there any specific tools or method to find the studs behind a plasterboard wall? I want to put up a 50inch tv but I dont have the confidence in the plasterboard plugs that I have. Screwing/bolting directly into the studs is probably better, but I have no way of finding the studs behind the wall??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭swampgas


    Google stud finder. Something like shown here. https://youtu.be/zLiAUFUenHk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Hooked


    I use a cheap ish stud finder that I got in screwfix. Bosch brand.

    Now... I say ‘stud finder’ but this is more a finder of metal and beeps for live electrical current.

    Finding the studs is only part of the job. You also don’t want to pierce or damage a service, like gas, water, and leccy!!!

    studs are usually 400mm or 16 inches centre to centre. Find one. Makes the next one easier.

    personally... I’d use a stud finder to locate the metal ‘screw’ holding the plasterboard slab in place... hence finding the stud. I’d carefully sink a thin nail to see if it bites the stud or punches through into thin air.

    but I would also always check for signs of a service. Even without a stud finder. I.e. Do you have a socket or rad on that wall?

    Sockets would usually have the cable fed vertically, so make sure none are ‘in-line’ with your holes.

    Hope this helps

    Post edited by Hooked on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Just to add. Here’s my go-to device:

    but a hammer and 1.5inch thin nail can be just as effective.


    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/bosch-truvo-digital-detector/8426T?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwZDPy7CV9wIVQ-rtCh3G-An7EAQYAyABEgLg0vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    If you're ok with a pilot hole you could drill a small hole in the centre of where the TV will go. Then thread a coat hanger wire in until you hit the first stud. Measure that and then you know where all the rest are as they are usually on 16" centers.

    Fill the little hole afterwards.

    Post edited by RainInSummer on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Get a few good strong magnets, perfect for this task. Slide them across the wall and they will stick in the location where the nails/screws are located. You can then leave the magnet there and with another identify the next stud. This will help you map out where things are in the wall without making any marks etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    400mm is just under 16" I'm guessing thats a typo on your part



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,214 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Magnets are the easiest and funnest way

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Hooked


    My bad - typing in bed this morning - yep, 400mm or 16 inches... "usually"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭whatchagonnado


    I have a 40" Samsung Frame on 6 plaster board bolts - it's still hanging there 14 months later. I believe the TV is 10kg.

    I had to do that because the stud finder picked up a wooden stud in the middle of the wall which I wanted to go into, but turned out to be metal. I didn't trust myself or the drill to get through the metal.

    Stud finders can be hit and miss. If you can afford it call a 'bloke'. Less hassle.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭keithb93




  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The stud detector tools are ok, but I find they can give false positives and I usually need to go over an area a couple of times just to be sure.

    Maybe I have a dodgy one, but there's been plenty of times it's told me there's a stud only for me to screw in and the hit nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭mick121





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭mick121


    Look for nails in the skirting boards,this is a good indication of where the studs are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    A decent length finish nail, hammer it into the wall to find the studs. It'll be behind the TV anyway. Get some polly filler and patch and paint the small holes after. When you find the stud use your level to mark a line down. If you can measure from a door or a corner that will give you an approximation of where to begin your search. For example you could measure 16...32....48...64 off the architrave or the corner of the room, won't be accurate but it should put you close enough to start searching with the finish nail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭size5


    Got a devices for €5 from a neighbour. Small rectangle block with two magnets on it, sweep it over the wall, you hear a little click when magnets find the screw head, then look for another one vertical just to be sure. Hasn't failed me yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭remoteboy


    Just spotted this thread and hoping I could get some tips. Cant find any studs in the upstairs back bedroom on the side wall of the house. I have a stud finder which works great on every other wall, just not this one. I looked at the skirting boards and there are no nails in them.

    I’ve drilled seven small holes about an inch apart each in an attempt to find something. No luck yet. Before I make absolute sh*te of the wall I have a stupid question - is it possible there’s no studs in this wall? Or that they don’t fun the full height of the wall. I’m guessing not but figure it’s worth asking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Dot and dab maybe?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭remoteboy


    I did wonder about that but when I drill through the wall I can detect the rear wall about 3 inches behind the plasterboard.

    im trying to mount a big TV and need to find something better than plasterboard to attach it to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    If you know anyone with a thermal imaging camera you first run a hair dryer over the wall area for a few minutes, wait 5 to 10 minutes and then view the wall with the camera. This will show exactly what's where.

    Note, this won't work though if insulated plasterboard was used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭remoteboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    There was a discussion on these a while back

    They seem to be the strongest fixings you'll get for plasterboard


    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭remoteboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Check if those are OK for insulated plasterboard.

    The other option is to screw into the wall behind with these type of fixings.

    And again a video :-)


    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭remoteboy


    So unfortunately the geefix won’t work. Not enough space to get it in behind the plasterboard (only around 20mm to play with) plus not sure it would work properly on the insulated board anyway. There’s actually a fair amount of insulation behind the plasterboard. I reckon 50mm of insulation and then a 20mm garment before you hit the brick.

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    The corefix looks good but just worried there wouldn’t be enough of it in the brickwork - the plugs are 100mm, so only 30mm of that would be in the actual wall. The metal core wouldn’t bridge the gap either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Whatwicklow


    Knock a hole with a hammer central to where your mounting the TV, poke something in to the left and right to locate the nearest stud. Install fixings, hang TV.


    Hanging TV covers 'explority' work 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭remoteboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    You can get longer corefix https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corefix-PLUS30-bracket-Plasterboard-Fixing/dp/B07B3X2PY4/

    Actually screwfix work out cheaper https://www.screwfix.ie/p/corefix-120-cfx004p-heavy-duty-dot-dab-wall-fixings-10-x-120mm-4-pack/334rg

    Edit> For 70mm before you hit the wall even 120mm corefix are a bit short.

    What I have done in the past is use 160mm frame fixers and then cut a length of metal tubing to fit over each frame fixer as a spacer washer so you tighten up against the washer not the plasterboard. Cut the tube half a mm to short so you pull a bit into the plasterboard.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,214 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Strong enough magnets will find the nails. Nails are in the studs.

    If you can find the nails you can work out where the studs are

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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