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Why is the word "treacherous" only used to describe road conditions?

  • 16-12-2022 10:50AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,725 ✭✭✭


    I'm getting old (we all are I know) but i've never understood why we whip this word out during cold snaps, before quietly pocketing it for another 5 years till the next one.

    Why can't people be treacherous? Or climbing ladders? Or skydiving?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Well, we build roads to make travelling safer, and if the roads become littered with patches of invisible death zones, then they betray their original purpose

    If your ladder had some kind of mechanism where a random rung just collapsed when you stand on it, It would qualify as treacherous too

    Treacherous is a good word, too good of a word to use in ordinary vernacular, so people want to use it whenever it doesn't make them sound like a lunatic or a knob, so deadly icy roads of death are a good time to practice it's use and keep it alive.

    Post edited by Akrasia on

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I think I have heard the phrase used as a combo... treacherous little ****.

    They can't really use that in a news bulletin. Unless it's The Day Today.

    It would be helpful OP if you could provide examples of individuals treacherous behaviour you feel warranted such a description.

    So we can all have a good laugh.

    So we can assess the merits of your argument.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭asdfg22


    Another good word is "standard" more than a word but a way of life, i reckon likely the most misused word... standards?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Eh no...often used for unsafe swimming /boating conditions too... the sea was treacherous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    My current favourite word that is trotted out regularly now is 'learnings'

    Seems that everyone takes 'learnings' now when they screw up, instead of resigning or retiring or demotion with a pay cut.

    Great wee word is the 'learnings', like a magic plaster from yer Mammy, all is smoothed over and forgotten.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I've used used it in other contexts. e.g.

    "Mike Pence's actions in certifying the Sleepy lads election were treacherous"


    Although I also said "covfefe"......so maybe don't quote from that sourse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    There be treachery on the road ................aar arrrhhh Jim lad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,036 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Journalistic copy/paste.

    All small villages and towns are 'close knit'.

    After a tragedy everyone is 'coming to terms with...'

    Everything environmental is 'sustainable'.

    Every loyalist area is 'staunch'.

    Scumbags are often 'known to Gardai'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Its the perfect word, it in part means deceptive which is often the case when road conditions are poor.

    A quick google gave one definition as - marked by hidden dangers, hazards, or perils, which is just perfect description.

    But another definition - likely to betray trust, is a somewhat different use of the word and its this use which we aren't making much use of.

    Its as if the use of the word treacherous is slowly changing from being used to describe the attributes of a person to the attributes of road, weather and sea conditions.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    All atheists who mention that they don't believe in god are 'Strident'

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,287 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Sky diving is one of the safest activities one could undertake.

    You May as well ask why isn’t treacherous used in conjunction with knitting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,734 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Excellent explanation of treacherous Akrasia.

    The phrase that grates with me is (the community is) 'bracing themselves' for a storm or even being beaten in a football game, no they are not, they are just getting on with life hoping things will work out.

    Another one is 'one of the only'. 'The hotel is one of the only hotels in Dublin to...' Either it is the only hotel to do something, or its 'one of the few'. One of the only doesn't mean anything at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Usually that's the case, but I've heard it quite often used to describe somebody who is very deceitful and untrustworthy to a dangerous degree, in old timey spy movies and stuff like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,479 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Apart from being a person who betrays, Treachery is also generally described as 'the quality of being deceptive'.

    When roads are sheltered and darkened and subject to black and patchy ice, they are treacherous.

    Treacherous waters are those with severe rips and currents, even in outwardly slight seas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Putin is a fellow who the word Treacherous aptly describes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,122 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Gardaí always appeal for witnesses. They never just ask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,000 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Few treacherous posters knocking around this site 🙂

    (only kidding just giving an example of how to use the word... honestly)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭The Continental Op




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,715 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    My takeaway from this thread is that "wet pubs" are no longer a matter for concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I, equally, would like to know why the words Michael Buble or Neven Maguire only come out at Christmas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    It isn't - it's just that the regular news people don't often get to say that really satisfying word (without misusing it).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭indioblack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,287 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭indioblack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭pavb2


    We always hear about inclement weather but when it’s a nice day it’s never described as clement weather



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,734 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I've heard clement used like that 😀. Possibly not recently though.

    Edit - probably a north of England thing, now I think on it.



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