No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

It seems the evenings will be getting brighter from today on.

After all, the shortest day of the year, in terms of daylight, is December 21, the winter solstice. But the days will actually begin to feel a bit longer two weeks before the solstice. That's because the earliest sunset of the year happens before the solstice, and in 2022, it occurs on Wednesday, December 7.

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They the will post out a letter showing a pin number

He made up some bullshit aswell to be fair.

Tarnished his reputation a bit

In what sense

Looking at clips from people on cost of heating homes.

houses loosing all heat quickly and dropping to 6 & 8 degrees.

I grew up in an unheated home and our first home after we were married the washing liquid froze in the kitchen window.

Went hard on insulation in our current house when we built and it pays. Overnight with no heating on it rarely drops below 18c

you’d feel for people with the cost of heating now.

Heating here is an oil boiler, but we have a stove that also heats the water and the rads. Little bit of coal and a bucket of sticks runs it for the day. There does be some heat out of it, water in the tap does be near boiling. Once you get the heat into the house we have good insulation to retain it. Just keep a little bit in the fire to keep it tipping over and its perfect. You don't get near the same heat out of the oil and thankfully we use very little of it. In this cold weather a bag of coal and a good wheel barrow of stick (free from the farm) will last just over a week. €500 of coal should see us out for the winter.

I do wounder about the heat pumps and geothermal I am guess at the minute it would be costing €5 - €6 a day to run these so it would still be more expensive than my wee stove.

Looking at a renovation job in with work, the its the restoration of an old house with an extension, client initially was all sure about installing a heat pump. BER consultant has talked them out of it, as next to impossible to get air tightness on a 100 year old house. Plus running cost and as you said @_Brian there would be a high possibility of after spending all the money the house would still be cold. However the client is going to pack as much insulation in as possible, with breather membrane and internal lime plaster render internal and external to help prevent interstitial condensation.

Ah ive mine in a good 13 years now and wouldn't change it tbh.

Trouble free bar one thing which cost €200 to fix. I think ye may be thinking of thr air to water system which is the most wide spread. I've the horizontal system which is abit more awkward to put in on day one but is "supposed" to be the most efficient of the lot of them

External insulation would be a good help, if the don’t want to show the stone exterior

Brazil gone lads and lassies, are our neighbours eventually going to do it?