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Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Says the poster that states that something is legally dubious based on apparently nothing more than a feeling in their waters. Keep on spoofing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    He's right. You failed to explain yourself. You vomited up something about 'illegitimate laws' and scuttle off when challenged on it.

    What are you prattling on about there? You've set your stall out like you know something, so why don't you go the whole hog and actually explain what you mean.

    Or...no...it couldn't be. You wouldnt be talking utter pony would you? Surely not.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sadly I think that horse has long bolted. Our Jus Soli law and booming economy in the 90's saw to that and they keep on piling on, like that O'Gormon fool. Ireland will be like pretty much every other European nation that fell for this multicultural politic and we'll see the exact same social and political problems as they have, only it'll come more rapidly here. It's always the same trends playing out. Every. Single. Time.

    On the multicultural thread hereabouts I've regularly posed the question: if this politic is such a boon then please point to any European nation(and indeed beyond in the West) where the exact same problems and trends don't play out. The answer? The sound of crickets. Not the pro multicultural folks fault. There simply isn't one. What's that saying about trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

    But like I say it's pretty much done and dusted for Ireland on this score. I was looking at the media for reports on this East Wall thing and they're all singing from the same hymn sheet. "Protests at emergency accommodation for 300 men, women and children" followed by "locals concerned" "Ugly/far right voices in crowd". That sorta thing. Some show a solitary faceless pic of a hastily rattled up welcome poster, but amazingly no pics of these "women and children".

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Yes some of the messengers in this case are horrible racist individuals, the broader point however should not be ignored from the many decent people who have genuine concerns at the protests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭jimmybobbyschweiz


    You are new to the engagement but are welcome to read back over what I posted earlier today, instead of jumping into bed with that other poster and feeding his delusions, shiting on about freemen of the land and whatnot. He's almost as deluded as the real Donald Trump!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I said nothing of the sort. I did however say that utter loser Phillip Dwyer and other were making their presence felt with loudspeakers in various parts of the country (Vincent Carroll), including East Wall and Killarney attempting to stir sh*t.

    He's from neither as far as I'm aware. So he can do one with his "genuine local concern" going up and down the country trying to get a race baiting circus going.

    Absolute state of him, harassing people about their shoes and filming them. That's prime-time loser behaviour and anyone who gives it a free pass is a low-grade loser as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭jackboy


    This is true but who here exactly is pro Dwyer and his tactics? It seems to me he has very few supporters and their numbers are not really growing.

    The existence of Dwyer does not negate the opinion that the refugee industry is broadly corrupt and exists to funnel tax payers money to well connected rich individuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Yep the CEO of one of the companies was on TV this morning saying locals have no say in the matter

    Ok thanks almighty one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    What corruption? Government goes out to tender and firms submit their tender. That's how it works.

    If you've found corruption, you'll have heads on plates within a couple of weeks, because government procurement and spending is audited with the eye of Sauron on it.

    It doesn't matter how loud people shout corruption or how often they repeat it, it's a big (it populist) charge to level. Where's the proof?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I think he will find they do. How have they got a planning change without applying for that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yes, we are the authors of our own misfortune with regard to these matters. I can get a handle on what's in it for FF/FG - there's developers and business people making a nice tidy sum from the state in terms of providing much of this accommodation. I'd be more puzzled by SF & the Greens though. SF because they are essentially a nationalist party and the nature of nationalism is to dislike immigration as it dilutes culture and so on. In the case of the Greens, it's also puzzling as the bigger the human population of the country is, the greater the levels of consumption and carbon emissions etc. So again they logically should be opposed to unrestrained immigration as it just makes more of the problem, that they purport to try and solve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    It's a serious question though. It's not like Commercial/Light residential to allow you to live above your shop. It's commercial turning into an Apartment block. Why has no jurno questioned this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Speaking of complete muppets is there still no more than a dozen Ukrainian cars in Ireland yurt?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭jackboy


    I wish we lived in the country you believe it to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Did they not scrap planning changes at the start of this? Or put some sort of Lax policy in place where you can turn anything into a livable space. For accommodating refugees and asylum seekers only that is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Would you believe I'm still yet to see a Ukrainian reg in Ireland despite all the foghorning from the Aldi-middle-aisle Tommy Robinson types on here.

    And there's an asylum seeker centre only 10 mins away from me.

    Almost like the shoe inspector losers are puffing the matter up because they have a tapeworm attached to their frontal lobe.

    And do you know what? If I spotted a Ukrainian reg. I wouldn't even be moved to be mad at the owner. Amazing isn't it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    No idea the current laws being used are for Ukrainians only defaulting them to EU citizens. Asylum seekers would not be in the same position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    The above post means absolutely nothing. It contains about as much nutritional content as an unsalted cracker.

    If you have evidence of corruption, I, like everyone else would like to see it. Someone else's fertile imagination belongs to them only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭enricoh




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Ah yeah, sure the government only have our best interests at heart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Does anyone want to put their hand up and admit that asking dark skinned people how much their trainers cost or obsessing about what marque Ukrainian refugees are driving is loser behaviour?

    Or will we see tumbleweeds? Or do some of our contributors here actually harass brown people about their shoes in real life?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭baldbear


    People are really getting worked up over the refugee crisis we have. But we seem to have crisis in every sector in this country. Health,housing etc . Our politicians make a mess of everything.

    They promise the sun,moon and stars without proper planning.

    The big thing I think we need to deal with is all the economic migrants coming here.

    We need to deport unscrupulous asylum seekers who are taking up resources.

    We are a soft touch. You arrive in Ireland and destroy your papers/passport and that's it you are here for the long haul.

    I saw a story regarding Sergeant Michael Griffin and would love to know did the man involved get to stay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,211 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Fair play to them calling it out about all these young men coming here when we don't know who they are or where they come from.

    Hopefully this is just the start of a push back to stop this invasion of illegal economic migrants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    1. It's clear you've made up the centre being 10mins away from

    2. On the off chance there is , it's definitely families women and children



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    No idea not watched the videos no real interest in what a knuckle dragger has to say. The legitimate question is how a office building became apartments. A failed office landlord now running said apartment. Surely that's a safety concern as they have no experience in Residential. I say apartments but it's probably just beds on the floor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Don't worry if there is a incident lessons will be learned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Well I for one would not blame the Ukrainians or asylum seekers for any of it. It is a 100% government issue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Then condemn the utter wasters harassing people about their shoes.

    In fact, a good lot of posters could stand to repudiate some of the low lives that are attending these protests and making hay from them. If they don't, they may find themselves among their number with their reputation in tatters.



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