Police called to hotel on day of the National Party AGM

go and read my first post again titled “paradox of tolerance”. Don’t reply to me until you understand it this time, cheers.

“ring the Gardai and express your concerns” hahaha, thanks for giving me a good laugh. The Gardai are only human and cannot defend everyone 24/7. So people learned to sort their own **** problems, nipping them in the bud.

vigilantism automatically goes away when the problem causing it goes away.

Every democratic country has parties from the far right to the extreme left. You defeat them by the ballot box and facing down their abhorrent views with good arguments. We don’t send thugs to assault them. That’s hardly the sort of people we want controlling political discourse.

I despise the extreme right and extreme left. I wouldn’t vote for either in a fit.

How many people vote for the NP anyway? And who exactly were the people attacking them? Are they any better?

Do you know the meaning of "deflect"? Do you know the purpose of making a comparison or an analogy in order to expose the nature of lying and misrepresentation? Yes, communists and fascists (or even worse Nazis) were allies in 1939-41. Countless thousands of dead Poles are evidence of that.

The point was never about the length of time communists and fascists were allies or enemies: it's about the assertion that they never were allies.

Clearly it's impossible to have a reasonable argument with you. Over and Out.

i actually do understand my own post, thanks for your input.

I know well it is theoretically the responsibility of the justice system (aka judiciary) to solve all crime in the country.

But in practice, this is completely unworkable with present resources. Perhaps in the age of AI controlled robot Gardai, we might reach such a state - who knows - but for now, with 15,000 human Gardai policing a country of 5 million, and even fewer judges/courts, this is impossible and unworkable. Perhaps you don’t understand that.

If these problems are not nipped in the bud, they grow. USA and UK have already failed to nip these problems in the bud in their environments, resulting in brexit and similar issues for those countries.

would you allow a meeting of paedophiles to discuss ways to subvert the law in order to be able to continue and grow their paedophilic community?

if not, then why is it OK for a group which has even been designated a hate group by watchdog organisations to run meetings to discuss how to increase the size of their group?

Is this one of those watchdog organisatons?

But they also designate the Iona Institute as a 'hateful and extremist group'. Would that make it okay to attack mainstream journalists like David Quinn or Breda O'Brien in the street?

No, No. He's in the right place.

Ah would you not keep going for a while? I'm not sure our answer to Jeremy Paxman has asked the same question enough times.

i actually do understand my own post, thanks for your input.

You clearly don’t understand your own post as the paradox of tolerance doesn’t justify vigilantism. It’s not just the responsibility of the Justice system to solve all crimes in this country, and the Justice system is not “aka” the Judiciary.

With current resources, it is still the responsibility and duty of the authorities of the Gardaí (‘The Guardians of the Peace’ isn’t just a nickname) and in this particular case the PSNI to protect everyone regardless of their political beliefs. Whatever lack of resources there are still doesn’t mean anyone has the authority to take the law into their own hands to mete out their own particular brand of justice. In this particular case, the PSNI dealt with the situation, and it’s your “AI Garda robots” are the stuff of hysterical nonsense.

That’s why regardless of however any group of people are categorised by another group of people, it doesn’t justify one group taking the law into their own hands, because that sort of vigilantism isn’t nipping anything in the bud, it only incites retaliation, as opposed to justice within the context of the Constitution which recognises the rights of everyone to freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of expression and all that sort of good stuff in a liberal, democratic society, and and places an obligation on the State to uphold and protect those freedoms, while limiting States interference with those rights -

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/irish_constitution_1/constitution_fundamental_rights.html

While you’re at it, you should look up the concept of the Separation of powers and how it functions (be no harm to familiarise yourself with the Irish Constitution either) before getting yourself worked up about nipping anything in the bud 🙄

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/irish_constitution_1/main_institutions_of_the_state.html