What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Well yeah, for a guy who had never previously been elected to anything to win the presidency is an achievement no matter what way you slice it. You might say well the Republicans were due one after eight years of Obama and Hillary was a pretty uninspiring opponent, but he still had to win the Republican nomination over some pretty serious pols like Cruz and Rubio...

I think actual GOP voters will definitely move to a new GOP candidate if there is one. I suppose the main consideration for the GOP is how many of their voters are purely Trumpers. If the Trumpers amount to less than the potential independent / annoyed Dem voters that they might pick up with another candidate, then they're obviously better to ditch Trump now. It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

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One man during the reception couldn't bring himself to just enjoy their (least favorite) daughters wedding after the Senate control was projected to remain with Democrats (yes, the news broke during the reception)

The New York Times' Maggie Haberman is perhaps the most renowned journalistic authority on Trump and his circus. She won a Pulitzer Prize for her work covering him.

She has long term, corroborated sources close to him and this week she has been describing how angry, distracted and betrayed he has been acting.

He sees the performance of candidates, who OWED him for his endorsement, as a personal insult.

You can dismiss all the soundbitey, tabloid coverage you like, but not the serious press.

Trump is ****ed. He knows he's ****ed. All the people who have tied themselves to his fortunes, know he is ****ed and are moving very quickly into ass covering mode, just as the Jan 6 and SDNY prosecutions are beginning to zero in on him.

This third tilt at the White House, that will be announced on Tuesday, is nothing more than an attempt to delay justice and assert immunity.

It won't work. In fact, all it will do, is ensure Walker loses the Georgia Runoff and split the Republican vote all the way to mid-2024 until they select DeSantis or Haley or Pompeo to be the actual candidate.

So far as the Dems are concerned, he's the gift that keeps on giving, they'd LOVE him to run as a third candidate all the way, assuming he's not legally barred in the meantime, by being convicted of insurrection against the United States and hence disqualified under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

If Trump does in fact run how is he going to square off the “stolen election” line and willingly take part in another election, which in his designs would just be “stolen” by Democrats and the media again?

Because he is dealing with morons. He'll tell them whatever. That's the beauty of morons

"after all I've done for those RINOS" he'll screech, which is kinda true. The GOP were on a downward spiral before 2016, they latched onto trump and identity politics in a hope to save themselves

As Raskin said yesterday, the fact that the Reps had a chance to vote to remove 45 following his second impeachment, which would have solved their current issue, and didn't, is entirely their own fault.

Meanwhile, profiles in courage with Mike Pence continued yesterday, some 30 odd months to late mind you..

Is this the last one to turn on poor oul Donny?

As the final numbers coming clearer, it is actually amazing just how badly the GOP has done in this election. Whatever about a Red Wave, historically midterms are poor for a sitting POTUS. Given that the GOP has been consistently telling everyone how hated Biden is, and how useless a job he is doing, to fail to get any upswing, especially when taking in the context of inflation etc, is deeply worrying for them.

This was a chance for the much talked about 'silent majority' to make themselves heard. And just like in the POTUS election, it seems that if there is such a thing as the silents, then they are so silent as to not even vote. And at what point will they accept that they are of no consequence in terms of elections?

This is, of course, terrible results for Trump. Obviously, the timing of the announcement was based on the presumption of the red wave, and Trump would announce that given the clear desire of the voters he was coming back to MAGA. To save America from the scourge of socialism under Biden. But that has all fallen apart. He has boxed himself into a corner, and now probably sees that the only way out is to double down, to push on with the announcement as to not do so would be an admission of failure.

He cost the GOP Georgia in 2020, and he will probably cost them a seat there in 2022 if he announces now. A while the DEMS have held on to the Senate, actually having a majority makes a big difference. So many in the GOP will now what if to announce and if they do end up losing Georgia then the pressure to get him away from the ticket will increase.

I have read online that one of the cleanest ways in which they can get rid of 45 is to assist in the criminal investigations of him.

He remains toxic and won't be told to get off the ticket. He will absolutely destroy any other runners, and he is a guaranteed loser for 2024.

So, if he gets convicted, they can make inconsequential noises about it being a sad day for america, but then assert loudly that the GOP must move onwards and upwards... blah blah blah.

Perhaps Pences interview was the start of that process?

being compelled by subpoena to attend before the Jan 6th committee would be some cover. No cameras rolling there. Deals can be done in terms of handing over evidence and the committee shielding sources (to a degree of course).

Hopefully, the Dems are able to keep it going after the results of the midterms settle.

DeSantis is a truly horrible individual but I really hope that he decides to take on Trump. It'll be fantastic entertainment. The GOP is totally imploding.