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Career change into IT at 35

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  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


    As Joe Duffy would say on the radio “I know dat” X 3, but maybe OP could become a great Web Developer. I don’t know about their creative skills, but if they exist they could get to design great websites, showcase their work freelance. yes of course it means sticking at the same current job, but their are ways of slipping into another career.

    I’m designing my own website to showcase my paintings, designs and web design abilities. Yes, it’s a hobby, but I can sell paintings, and I can sell my designs. Via my IT hobby.

    I know there are practicalities, and I failed to follow certain dreams maybe because of being overly practical, that’s why I’m on the side of encouraging OP. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,502 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I think when you have to explain what the cert is your making my point for me.

    I'm not dismissing it. I'm just saying it won't get past the HR filter. IT related Level 8 and recent industry experience in the specific area. If you have degree in another discipline but have done a conversion that might get you over the line.

    Will a basic qualification get you in at the bottom. Perhaps. It's that that the OP wants?

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,502 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I accept that. Sometimes making enough to make ends meet us enough if you get to do what you want to do. You don't need to be the rockstar.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


    As I fully admit, I’m speaking from the leisurely position of retirement, albeit with a furiously active brain. In earlier days of my public service career, early 80s, my purely creative skills came into play, photocopier was height of tech to reproduce my productions 😂 Then I was given the task to prepare brochure for a. central Dublin public service, which I completed with almost zero tech. I was so utterly frustrated at my remit versus allowed access to the most basic resources.

    Inadequacy of resources seems to be principal of reports I hear from friends in tech nowadays; eg you have to penetration test your employer but are denied access to some of the more useful tools on Kali. This kind of thing happens in some Irish based companies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,502 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I agree with all that. I've the same T-Shirts.



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  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


    This guy has studied and further explained the entire science of language and logic, meaning, philosophy etc, ie our human intentions and communication of such. All distilled by mathematical and diagrammatic terms .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,559 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Unfortunately to get past the HR filter to get even an entry level job in most companies of resonable size, you need a Level 8 degree.



  • Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People use the command prompt and PowerShell in Windows too. I'd be shocked how someone could work in IT without knowing the basics of those at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Maybe look at Cisco qualifications, theres a good demand for Cisco qualified staff. I know several who studied Cisco in their own time and changed career, one from plumbing , another from bike courier. Both now earning 6 figure salaries. Theres lots of free online videos you can study in your own time without giving up the day job. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cbt+nuggets+jeremy+cioara

    Cisco covers a wide area from routing and switching, voice, security.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Dinkie


    I did this last year. I'm 39yrs old. I was in the health sector and now I'm purely IT (Albeit in the healthcare sector also). I have no IT qualification but managed to get a nicely paid job out of it. I had have to pass a sh*t hard aptitude test first though!

    I changed jobs to do it, but my first port of call would be my company and talk to the IT people there. See what qualifications they have etc. Have a look at job specs to see what are being asked for - and look at the jobs available.

    Some IT jobs only need basic (relatively quick to get) qualifications, so this might be a starting point?

    I need to add that I had other skills that the company wanted, so were happy to train me in the IT side... so be aware you might already have some of the skill!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,903 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The most obvious opportunity would be to leverage your clinical experience. Do you have any opportunities to get involved in IT projects within your current healthcare role? Can you take on an IT trainer role, or a business analyst role, or a test lead? Check out the HSE digital team, and talk to the digital teams in your own organisation see what opportunities arise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 arelyn


    Thank you, everyone, I appreciate your time and submissions...

    Having gone through each comment, personal research and skill-matching suitability test, I am leaning towards cybersecurity/Networking as I feel am able to grasp the concepts easier than writing codes...

    I work at the lowest level of care delivery and unfortunately for a company without any existing IT department, I have to make my development alone while working part-time as well.

    I will appreciate suggestions and ideas on how to break into this cyber/Network field. I am planning to start with CompTIA A+ certifications which I will schedule for the first quarter of 2023 but after that, I am a bit uncertain about what to do next and how to get my first break into the field

    In essence, I still need your opinions

    ,

    Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,903 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Start looking for free or low cost courses on Coursera or Udemy and see if you can get your head around this stuff.



  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


    You will need to be able to write some code for cyber security, an area I’m studying atm. But having said that, once you get the hang of Python and know what you are doing there’s a lot of cut & paste and tweaking things. I started Python aged 60, as a hobby, it’s not difficult and only a matter of getting used to it. As stated above I’m doing it a very cheap way with EU funded EITCA.

    One thing to be aware of, with infosec it’s a constant learning process to keep pace with the knowledge of criminals, sine of whom are making a laughing stock of many of the traditional tools you mind find Kali Linux. They are in the realm of using AI methods of attack which just bulldoze through the relatively elementary stuff.

    Again the above is what I’m studying, for the princely sum of €220! Nothing to lose!



  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


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    Here’s a snippet of Python code you would be writing/using/adapting in an information security career.

    You should start by setting up VirtualBox on your PC, and create a Kali Linux virtual machine within that.


    Lot’s of guides online on how to do that. Then start one of the cheaper courses on Linux just to get familiar with the operating system, Kali Linux is the one commonly used by infosec people as it comes with tools preloaded. Then, within that machine set up Pycharm or VisualCode where you can write and edit your Python code. Any coding takes getting used to if you’re a newbie, but Python is as straightforward as it comes, and when you get used to one language another is very doable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Cisco security also comprises managing firewalls, one guy I work with spends a lot of his day allowing access for certain sites for various individual users, no code involved for him. Voice is also an interesting area as you're dealing with real hardware , I got into it in my fifties after a career change and picked up ccna and ccnp certs.

    Udemy is a great source of free courses like below Cisco courses.

    https://www.udemy.com/courses/search/?price=price-free&q=cisco&sort=relevance&src=sac



  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


    For OP, familiarity with SQL… & subsequently SQL injection, would be inherent part of learning process. SQL stands for Structured Query Language & is a method of interrogating databases and filtering the results you want. You can do a Udemy course course on SQL which gives access to a practice database.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Shocked is an understatement!

    Has the OP even replied to this thread or have I missed his posts? Is there any update?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭nullObjects



    Be careful that some certs have a better name than others. If you are getting a cert you are either getting it because you want to learn something they are offering or you want it to look good on a CV. Sounds like you're on the right path though, good stuff. Do let us know how you get on with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 arelyn


    I am actively reading every comments and taking in every information in submission....I open this thread as many times as possible everyday and I appreciate everyone's submission



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  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Kyler Little Rust


    There’s presently a jobs ad on LinkedIn that OP might take a look at, for what it’s worth. Can’t post the link here but a screenshot…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭irishkopite 2011


    I don't have a clue about this type of stuff but seen this course recently and it might be of benefit to the OP. It seems to cover a wide range of basics. https://www.ictskillnet.ie/training/ict-skillnet-cisco-networking-academy/



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