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Cherrywood Shopping Centre

  • 04-11-2022 04:21PM
    #1
    Cristianc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭


    Any idea what is happening with the Cherrywood Shopping Centre?

    I haven't seen any activity on social media since 2020. Are they still contructing? I saw the residential units have now been completed but what about the stores?



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  • #2
    Zenify
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Zenify


    The developer's (Hines) latest YouTube video dated 3 months ago doesn't even mention the shops.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9elm7J8oLmU


    Maybe ask in the comments section on YouTube and see what they say....



  • #3
    Caquas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Caquas


    No sign of any work on this site and no word about a timescale for its development.

    There was an announcement yesterday about a new commercial lease on the other side of Cherrywood

    APC and VLE Therapeutics, two Irish-owned drug-development companies, have signed a long-term lease with DLR Properties, a company wholly owned by Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown Co Council, for a new 60,000sq ft building to facilitate the delivery of their planned 130,000sq ft Medicine Accelerator campus.

    Good news for the bio-med side of Cherrywood but the final paragraph of the report gives no grounds for hope in regard to the promised Town Centre.

    DLR Properties currently owns and manages 180,000sq ft of buildings and a prime town-centre development site of 13 acres in Cherrywood. This site is set to be developed to provide a mix of residential, commercial and community uses

    Don't hold your breath

    https://www.irishtimes.com/property/commercial-property/2024/05/29/apc-signs-pre-let-deal-for-new-60000sq-ft-building-at-cherrywood/



  • #4
    FernandoTorres
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭FernandoTorres


    Think it's fairly normal to wait for the houses to be built before any shopping centre. No point in having a load of shops with no customers. Also retail is dying on its arse and Carrickmines/Dundrum are easily not far away. Just look at the writedown the Square Tallaght has had. Doubt they'll be in any rush.



  • #5
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058270425/cherrywood-shopping-centre

    still lots of residential units to build

    The square is home into receivership, retail isn’t to hot at the moment



  • #6
    Caquas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Caquas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122203742#Comment_122203742

    Most of the houses and apartments are built and are rapidly filling up. I would guess Charrywood’s residential areas will be complete within a year and nothing has been done for the town centre. If they never build the town centre, then the vast SDZ planning exercise - one of the most ambitious in the history of the State - was a waste of time.

    Cherrywood would be just another very large residential zone with some basic amenities- a few parks and a primary school - built around the existing transport infrastructure. The same result could have been achieved by the private developers with far less intervention by the Council.
    https://www.dlrcoco.ie/planning/cherrywood-sdz



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  • #7
    frank730
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭frank730


    Did they not ask for revised planning permission last year where they are no longer going to build the "big" shopping centre but more apartments?



  • #8
    Caquas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Caquas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122219567#Comment_122219567

    There have been many amendments over the years but I think the plan is still to build a big retail centre of 35-40,000 sq. m.

    Not another Dundrum but not just a local centre. Except so far no sod has been turned.

    https://www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/dlrcoco/files/2024-03/Chapter%202%20-%20Proposed%20Development%20in%20Cherrywood.pdf



  • #9
    Caquas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Caquas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122205118#Comment_122205118

    The shopping centre is officially ditched and a sports centre fantasy is being hyped in its place.

    The proposed €190 million development on an eight-acre site in Cherrywood, south Dublin will include two Olympic-sized ice rinks; a 5,000-seat indoor arena and a training centre for elite athletes.

    The investment vehicle behind the project, Prime Arena Holdings Limited, said it had reached agreement to purchase the site from US real-estate group Hines, which is already developing 1,300 apartments within the Cherrywood strategic development zone.

    So the shopping centre site is sold for an undisclosed sum to a new "investment vehicle" with lots of high-profile "investors", few of whom have serious money and none of whom, I suspect, have risked their own money thus far. Because it won't be long before they present the Government with a bill for north of €100 Million. Then we will enter a "process" i.e. no sod turned while endless media battles are fought to get taxpayers to pay for this scheme.

    The local politicians are on board - how quickly they forget the plans which cost millions to develop!

    Cathaoirleach of Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council Jim O’Leary welcomed what he described as Ireland’s first dedicated winter sports arena. “This transformational arena will contribute significantly to our corporate goals in realising our sports, tourism and cultural ambitions.”

    The Irish Times has to do better than simply hyping these plans. What about its commitment to  "enable readers of The Irish Times to reach informed and independent judgements"? The new residents of Cherrywood should not be deluded by this switcheroo.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/04/25/190m-winter-sports-arena-to-host-irelands-first-ice-hockey-franchise/



  • #10
    Hesperus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭Hesperus


    @caquas why so negative?



  • #11
    Caquas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Caquas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123388300#Comment_123388300

    Because the IT is unquestioning of this fundamental change in Ireland's largest SDZ - if I just posted the IT link, Boards would not see any of the issues with this proposal which I tried to point out.



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  • #12
    FernandoTorres
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭FernandoTorres


    The stadium plans have nothing to do with the shopping centre from what I can see. That's still awaiting amended planning approval.



  • #13
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123402535#Comment_123402535

    yes, coming off the motorway the shopping centre was to be to the left. The stadium will be on the right



  • #14
    Caquas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Caquas


    New apartments on offer near Tully Park.

    Lots of hype about local amenities but no word of either the sports arena or the shopping centre. This is fair warning

    just a short drive to the cafes and bistros of Dalkey, Foxrock and Enniskerry.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/property/residential/2025/02/21/cherrywood-apartments-with-park-on-the-doorstep-from-410000/



  • #15
    mikeybhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Was up there today. The houses/apartments look nice but completely lacking in any shops/commercial premises. I know there's a Tesco Express up there and a few other shops but could definitely do with a bit more. I could see maybe a Lidl/Aldi going in there but there's plenty of them around. A cinema would be great but can't see it unfortunately.



  • #16
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123527346#Comment_123527346

    there’s meant to be one in Carrickmines , so less than 5 minutes ok the LUAS.

    Likewise Dunnes Ballyogan is also on the LUAS



  • #17
    mikeybhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123529968#Comment_123529968

    I've been hearing about plans for a cinema in Carrickmines for years but nothings happened as of yet.



  • #18
    spaceHopper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123529968#Comment_123529968

    You aren't going to do full shop and hop on the Luas. People might get a single bag of shopping if it's local but not much more without a car



  • #19
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123531899#Comment_123531899

    Lots of people shopping for themselves will



  • #20
    spaceHopper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532182#Comment_123532182

    and the other 80% of the population will drive. It's not excuse for not having services near by. Are they building a suburb with no soul or a community.



  • #21
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533238#Comment_123533238

    in fairness there are a lot of services near by


    Tesco Ballybrack , Lidl Shankill, Dunnes Cornelscourt, Dunnes Ballyogan , Supervalue Killiney.

    Not exactly a million miles away.

    There’s good tennis courts , gums, running routes, public transport, coffee shops, hair dressers, Tesco , spar, subway, zambaro, etc

    Schools, crèches , playgrounds I’ll not sure how often you are up there , but the community is pretty good

    My daughters school is up there and her team trains and plays on the Astro domino there daily


    what else are you looking for?



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  • #22
    spaceHopper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533284#Comment_123533284

    The development was pitched as a self-contained area with all the facilities it would need, they got planning on that basis, people bought houses and apartments there on that basis. All the areas you mentioned are only accessible by car or by a fully able-bodied person. The developer has gotten the benefit of the sales pitch and planning permission; they should be healed to it. One new primary school which in an educate together school, the next easily accessible schools are the educate together in Ballyogan and the secondary school there. The secondary school in Cherrywood it temporary. The one at Loughinstown is a desh school.



  • #23
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    what’s wrong with DEIS schools?



  • #24
    LastApacheInjun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭LastApacheInjun


    Any big development like Cherrywood needs a village centre. The strip of four or five shops at the Luas stop at present isn't enough. You need a pub, a butchers, a clothes shop (whether that's a Dunnes, Penneys or Next or something) and a couple of proper restaurants (not takeaways or coffee shops). They also need a local GP and dentist.

    To say "oh but there's shops a ten minute drive away or three stops away on the Luas" is ridiculous. Fine if it was just one estate, but Cherrywood was meant to be a standalone town. The developer should not be allowed to build one more apartment without ensuring the town centre is finalised. People bought houses and apartments on the promise that the council would hold the builder to the planning permission that was issued. The developer should absolutely not get away with building apartments instead of the shopping centre. If I was living there I'd be outside my local council offices with a pitchfork and torch.



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