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Father Sean Sheehy disapproves of gay couples but hugs sex offenders.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Exactly the same. Woke is the term for things you/others don't like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Yes it is, you are a hypocrite, following the crowd. If you do not believe in the teachings of the church why join it? My children are not baptized, much to the anger of my grandparents at the time I might add, I don't want them having anything to do with the RCC.

    This priest spouted the official line of the church, they have adopted a softer approach to keeps bums in the seats but the core has not changed. Look at the bishops response, its weak, he should of been honest and backed his priest but no they are worried about the numbers. If the word of god and the bible is so absolute, why are they bending it? The church are hypocrites (bar this priest) and every single church goer who has an opposing view to homosexuals, abortion etc is one too.

    So I'm asking you, if you do not believe in something why support it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Tubs simply has to get fr Sean on this week's late late. I mean he's on the radio constantly so it's just a matter inviting him on. Or maybe Tubs feels safer just interviewing Daniel or God forbid Dermot Bannon!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭boccers


    His point was definitely not nonsense and is very relevant in today's Ireland. Every year thousands of children get baptised, make their communion and confirmation because it is a day out, it is the way it has always been and, in the case of the latter two, it is part of school. If communions and confirmations were taken out of schools in the morning there would be probably a 90% reduction in the amount taking part.

    Baptising a child for a day out/to please parents or grandparents despite not agreeing with what the RCC teaches is 100% hypocritical in my view. As far as I remember from my youth there is no part in the bible that suggests you can pick and choose the parts you want to conform with but I am open to correction on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Exactly the word of the bible and god is absolute, you can't pick and choose.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,120 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    He's on Red FM now and he's a bit of a temper on him when subjects are brought up that he doesn't want to discuss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Rather see someone competent do it. Probably rules out everybody in RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    So, hold on....you have to agree 100 percent with everything the church says and preaches, and if not, and you then attend a church to baptize, marry, or bury, and we're all hypocrites? That is utter binary nonsense. Black and white silliness. People do not behave this way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭boccers


    "That is utter binary nonsense. Black and white silliness." That is a good summary of my view of the Catholic Church.

    And to the OP, that Sheehy guy is absolute scum and if there was a heaven and hell like he believes there is only one place that hate filled c**t is going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I'm getting nothing other than your silly black and white logic behind it...

    Have you ever married, baptized, buried, confirmed anyone in the church? Or have you never used the church here because if you did you'd be a hypocrite?

    I have used the church for such things, as have many many many others, and I wouldn't label any of them hypocrites for it (if they also didn't believe or agree 100 percent with the church's teachings).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,009 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    That has been highlighted a couple of times on the thread, and you are right, there is a difference.

    However, seeing as the bishop is also a Catholic in this case, rather than another branch of Christianity, I'm not sure that there is much of a difference really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    He not promoting hate though, he's promoting the official line of the church, god, the bible etc.

    He deserves hell no more than anyone else who speaks their beliefs. He's far from scum, I actually respect the man for courage in his conviction and beliefs.

    My issue is the people up in arms about it who have taking part in all the rituals and put there children through it. We all know the official line of the church why is anyone remotely surprised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Well considering that there are something like 4000 different forms of Christian churches then you're probably right. Although I would imagine fr sean believes his one is the only legitimate one considering he doesn't recognise the resuls of the divorce or contraception referendums held here. This guy is more toxic than trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭boccers


    I agree with what you are saying in general about the church but definitely don't agree with you about Sheehy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Timfy


    I thought all the stone casting, shellfish dodging, spilling seed and laying with men stuff went out the door with the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, being replaced with love and treat others as you would have them love and treat you and there is no other God so honour me (or else! which always seemed a bit needy for an omnipotent deity)


    At least it's promising to see that the overwhelming percentage of people acknowledge that this misogynistic, hatred fuelled man is a relic of a very different time (some time just after the dinosaurs I believe)


    Here are a set of much more relatable commandments that combine respect for your neighbour and scientific basis for reasoning, can you guess the religion?


    I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.


    II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.


    III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.


    IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To wilfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.


    V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.


    VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.


    VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.


    THE SATANIC TEMPLE! AKA "the bad guys!"

    No trees were harmed in the posting of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I have no control in what friends and family partake in, so yes I have attending weddings. christenings and funerals obviously.

    I was baptized into the catholic church, confirmed, communion no choice there. I was not married in a church or religious ceremony, I had a child out of marriage, my children are not baptized despite the pressure of family to, they will not attend a catholic school and if they do they will not partake in any religious teachings. I fill in the census religion section as N/A.

    I support homosexuality, divorce, abortion, whatever people want to do or be. If I had married in a catholic church, baptized my children then yes I would call myself a hypocrite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭boccers


    You keep referring to "using" the church like it is a supermarket or something.

    I was baptised, did first communion and confirmation but stopped going to mass when my parents allowed as I always hated it. I did believe in God as a child because I was taught as fact that he existed at home and in school but as I got older and thought about it for myself I realised that in my view it is all nonsense. Then as more and more scandals were uncovered not just in Ireland but globally, along with a lot of the teachings that would go against what I believe is morally correct, I grew to dislike the RCC. I was not married in a church, my kids are not baptised and will not make communion/confirmation unless they want to do it when they are 18, I will not have a funeral in the church because I don't believe in any of it and would consider it to be hypocritical to do any of these things just for a day out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    People may not behave that way but what else can it be other than hypocrisy? If you believe as fr sean and his fellow clerics do that we are all sinners then what's your beef with being regarded as a hypocrite!



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭piplip87


    So we have people outraged over a Catholic Priest saying what the Catholic Church has been saying for centuries.

    I'm not religious, I absolutely despise the church for what have done to this country hopefully this will wake a lot of people up to their beliefs. Although I'd imagine a lot still have to be seen at Mass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Not sure about stoning but why they got rid of slavery is beyond me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I'd have guessed the Church of Anarcho-Libertarianism.

    You can ignore laws if you're fighting for asbtract "justice" - which could be anything.

    Bodily autonomy absolute. Freedom to offend absolute. So no more vaccines and no more snowflaking over wrong-speech?

    How on earth these are "religious principles" is anyone's guess, reads like a political manifesto to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    I’d say the irony of calling someone a “hate filled c**t” is lost on you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Wake up? The dogs on the street know what the church spouts. They will continue to keep up appearances though, for the day out and social media pictures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    the christian ethic is, "love the sinner hate the sin" he should be hugging everyone if thats the standard, so I dont see that the OP's headline is meant to be a shocker? I dont know anything about he background, but Ill go out on a limb and say that I doubt the priest approves of sex offending

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Ill go out on a limb and say that I doubt the priest approves of sex offending

    Possibly but he went out of his way to disapprove if the victim, even alluding to her as a slut because she had a kid. Why didn't he hug her also? It's hardly because the man is just a prick, is it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭GNWoodd




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    No. Taking the life of an innocent unborn human person is criminal. Just as much as killing a newborn . NB a no needs explaining when you write as you do

    Look casuistry up here online,, Please



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