Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

I was the same - and wondered what you were still doing here, posting 🤣

I'd be over in the Algarve posting ads to 6 bed villas with massive gardens and pools asking...........who'd live in a house like this? ME!!!!

Mixed feelings about that one, firstly I think Greenways are fantastic facilities and love to see them, I also love when old public/industrial/commercial buildings get cleverly repurposed instead of going derelict. However I think that building might need a change of use from residential to commercial, a café and/or a bike rental. Looking at the location, it'd definitely be more cyclists using it then walkers. Nearest main station, erm I mean town, is Abbeyfeale which is a fair drive away.

There is already a lot of facilities on the Greenway. You are no distance from Barnagh where there is a cafe and bike stop ( a bus drops and collects bikes and cyclists to carry them back to there cars or start the journey to where there cars are)

There is already a stop in place at Templeglantine. Templeglantine to Barnagh is only 4km and Abbeyfeale is only 9 km. Also I would doubt if you would be allowed access to the Greenway. For your own personal use you could put a pedestrian exit but there is a fence along the whole lenght

That property is over priced IMO. At 380k even with the little apartment it fairly expensive for the area. The disadvantages are obvious. The site seems to be only 50-80' squeezed between the Greenway and the road. And at a guess the back of the house is North facing.

Of the site was a bit wider the back of the house South facing it would have much more potential. Greenway are inherently safe an 6-10 years old would have a great time at Christmas after getting a go-kart or bicycle.

I would not agree that it is dated. The property is in excellent condition. However the main issue is it is Ber exempt. Who ever did up the house and apartment never insulated it. There is a lot of exposed sine inside, beautiful to look at but can mean that the house is very poorly insulated.

If it had been insulated on the inside with very limited exposed stone it would be more attractive.

Building that are Ber exempt should get a Ber test done if C/ D or better they should let it be known if this Ber is achieved by good insulation installation.

I was just about to comment about the price. Fcukin hell, that's expensive for what it is.

And it doesn't look like a cosy house. I felt cold looking at it.

They have limited rental yields. The apartment is a one bed I think so would suit couples but what can you charge, however remember it is not directly on the Greenway. As an Airbnb after costs would it yield 10-12k/ year net.

The washing machine is under the oven in the apartment. That is not a huge issue. I think a lot of buyers out there will have to start to understand when you buy a second hand house you are buying a second hand house. The idea that when you do you tear everything out and redecorate completely comes at a cost.

As I said the property is overpriced due to its location and it Ber rating it decor is a matter of personal taste. I would not like some of it but if I was buying there is other much more serious issues

It's unsuitable as a family home as it's only two bed with a third bedroom in the apartment which is not attached. It might suit a couple with no children and an elderly parent using the apartment as a granny flat. However the apartment is two story.

Buying as an investment property at that price has limited yield especially taking labour into account. Has it got a potential net yield of 25-30k, from a figures wise that may seems ok but the labour input is the killer someone has to be there to give access and cleaning

The biggest problem as a home are it's a squeezed site between the Greenway and the public road( it probably a quite ish road from the Google map) because of this you have no privacy and the south side of the house is facing the Greenway.

The decor inside a house is personal taste it something that can be changed fairly cheaply. To upgrade to a fairly decent Ber C/D you would have to completely redo the I side of the house.

You cannot change the orientation of the house or the site. If these were right I would not be worried about an oven over a f@@king washing machine especially if I was going to rent it as an Airbnb let.

Talking about outrageous prices

So €600 per half of a couple and the apartment isn't entirety yours.

Believe it or not I would say the Iivybis part of the décor. As for the brick....it's 150 years old. Its a refurbished old rural railway station turned into a dwelling.

Anybody doing them up decides what they want to keep visible and what they want to cover up.

As I said if you bother reading my previous post Indicatedvtgdt it was Ber exempt and this was a problem as if it was berC/D it would have been indicated on the website. I also said it was over priced. No matter what heating system you put in that house you have a problem because the insulation is a huge issue.

If you insulate externally you lose the complete stone look of the house, you cannot insulate inside without ripping out everything that is the main issue.

Its a basic flaw people have made in doing up old stone houses for the last twenty years. They often never insulate on the inside. You can leave some stone/ bricks exposed but you must insulate the rest. Cut stone building like this are way colder than lime rendered ones.

Therefore the decor and even the heating system is the least of your problems. Decor is a matter of personal taste and you also have to factor in when it was originally refurbished

I expect with all the pine about twenty years ago. Generally I dislike pine but it can be painted over.

But even after changoall.that you are left with the squashed site which you cannot change

Someone needs the money to pay for the overpriced house and land they thought they could afford. They could have given the roadside bit at least, strange to have the plot between the roadside lawn and the house...

Possibly they have an idea that the corner plot will make another site? Though it will be less than half an acre and therefore not big enough for a septic tank - unless the house septic tank/water treatment is under the corner plot? I think the water treatment issue can be sorted these days, but a house entrance right on the corner? Less likely, unless all three (!) houses used the same gateway. All they are doing is devaluing the main house, if they can't afford it they would be better off to sell up as is and buy something they can afford.

The description is misleading though:

The first sentence is garbled, the second sentence should read The lands are being sold as seen; they will not be sold 'subject to planning'.

Edit: The site has the wrong folio number, the correct one is SL11012F. Its a big site and looks more possible on street view, its right opposite the water works!