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BBC Sport Blog using the phrase 'Throwing a Paddy'

  • 29-10-2022 1:21pm
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    This discussion was created from comments split from: Throwing a Paddy?.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭Worztron


    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/bbc-throwing-a-paddy


    Mod - I've split this thread out of an existing 12 year old thread. This topic is in the news today so I think a new thread is best

    Post edited by Ten of Swords on

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭Worztron


    I don't recall hearing that term before.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just means throwing a tantrum... Nothing to do with Ireland or the Irish NOW whatever its long ago origins might have been. it is one of the expressions we grew up with - before I even knew Ireland existed.... It was a very bad way to behave!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    It’s like what Steve Buscemi when he intervened in that row. Yore actin like a couple of yokels



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,035 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Are we? I thought we were stereotypically easygoing and biddable and anxious not to make a fuss...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    There's plenty of things people used to say that are considered ignorant/racist/prejudice in modern times. Usually because that's exactly what they are by modern standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,505 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Stereotypically quarrelsome after the gargle maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    It's from back when the Brits were coming in and snatching up your land or raping your newly wedded wife.

    Throwing an auld paddy would make sense under those circumstances I reckon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    That’s when it genuinely is offensive.

    A racist term should never be used offensively; only ever in defense



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,522 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    It's a now archaic expression and I don't know how, or why, they dragged it up. It was always considered offensive and still is today. The old excuse that they always said it doesn't negate it's origin nor it's offense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭thegame983


    Paddy here. I'm fine with it.



  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Someone used that phrase to me during a zoom meeting and I had no idea what he was talking about and had never heard it before.

    So, I asked him to explain it (a lot of Americans and second language English speakers). He started explaining it and saying it was “ya know, because of the way the Irish are famous for being a bit ya know argumentative…”

    I was genuinely shocked, and the whole call got a bit awkward, particularly the Americans. The US based host just muted him.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hurtful generalisations like this really have no place in the modern world. But sure what else can you expect from the English? Utter *****, the lot of them



  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    What does "throwing a paddy" mean?

    Cambridge Dictionary defines "paddy" as an old-fashioned, informal UK term meaning "a very angry state." The dictionary notes that "paddy" is "an offensive word for an Irish person."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,597 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Who cares. This site is always on about the permanently offended and snowflake wokesters, don't be one of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,725 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    You do realise that Irish (for that is what most are taking "Paddy" to mean) is not a race, it's a nationality. Still pretty demeaning in the modern day, mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I have heard it used. Almost certain it is in reference to the Irish. A bit like the 'a bit Irish' as in stupid, daft or silly. Funny enough I heard the 'a bit Irish' phrase used by Irish people in Dublin!



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    who could possibly care.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,035 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭wanderer 22


    In a world where singing 'Up the Ra' is not seen as glorifying the IRA nothing means anything anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I drove my Sarsen through your garden last night... sing up the RA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Anyone else here genuinely not bothered by phrases like this that are aimed at the irish? I couldn't give a flying f..k

    Call me a paddy, call me a mick, whatever you want, I don't care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Hey Grace, out of curiousity, if I started a sentence by saying "Eenie, meenie, money, moe..." how would you finish it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    In a similar vein, "work like a black".

    People blurt out these "sayings" because their grandparents/parents said it. No sense of cop on, well actually, if they were educated enough to know the meaning behind these sayings, well, they might not have said them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I know the finish of that one! Not used anymore but I remember when it wasn't racist (didn't know what it meant at the time)



  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭What.Now


    When you say that 'I remember when it wasn't racist' do you think that maybe it was but it wasn't meant to offend.


    I think there is a huge difference in not meaning to offend but offending and on the other hand meaning to offend.


    I've been in meetings where something has been blurted out without meaning harm and in a jocking manner the person would have their eyes opened to what was said. In another meeting a person was derogatory to his host nation in a spiteful manner. The meeting was abandonded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I was too young to understand the word. Thought it might be some type of creature or something. I think it was changed to weasel at some point.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the mid day sun 🤐



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Not sure if the term was because it was driven by an Irish Man (NYPD) or contained many Irish at the time!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I googled it NYPD

    Looking back again to the 1860s, more than half of those arrested in New York City were Irish. Whether it originally referred to lawmen or lawbreakers, 'paddy wagon' is still a term for a police vehicle – usually a van – designed to accommodate a group of prisoners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    I've heard that one yeah. I've heard a few other sayings that are a bit derogatory.

    'That's a bit Irish'. Meaning its been badly done.

    'That's a bit more protestant', meaning it was properly done this time .

    There is also the PaddyWagon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Taking a "Mulligan" in golf means giving yourself a second chance-cheating in other words.

    "A little bit irish" for something stupid or poorly thought through. I remember the famous soccer referee and Harrow schoolmaster David Ellery using this one on the BBC about twenty years ago.

    An "irish snooker" is achieved by getting the white to finish tight in front of a ball creating awkward cueing instead of behind it creating an actual snooker. Phrase is still used all the time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Malarkey also, what's all this Malarkey.. behave yourselves. Its an irish surname too.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,421 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I heard it used only once in my life while talking to an (english) old dear in Wales over the summer. She didn't mean anything offensive by it but started stammering when I asked her what it meant (I genuinely didn't know). I doubt she had awareness that it was discriminatory language until that moment similar to when I was a child during eeny meeny we didn't catch tigers by the toe.

    It is just a lack of education, awareness and a general ignorance about Johnny Foreigner that seems to be prevalent in England. Even within the UK the English (particularly southern) see themselves as number 1 and the other nations as lesser. You see this in the condescending manner they discuss Wales, NI and Scotland and the ribbing based on nationality.

    Beyond the pale is another one which implies that Irish people are uncivilised/unacceptable.

    They can be fairly thin skinned themselves when called out https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63437351

    Post edited by Pawwed Rig on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Lived in London for a few summers and was called a lot worse. Pulling pints in Kentish Town. " wha de fack do u call vat you dirty mick barsturd, i said a phuckin pine not a conversation, now fack off", it was common enough.

    In fairness English people have " bants " all the time, they take the piss out of strangers, it is bizarrely a compliment when they pick on you. Give me a scuff who says it to your face any day of the week. It is the ones that don't say it but actually genuinely believe you are below them that annoy me the most... and for every mouth " avin a larf" at your expense there are twenty others saying nothing, but actually not liking you because of your Irishness, they are the worst. Not getting invited to their parties, or been left out generally. It is insipid.

    But in general English people are great craic, caring and loving people, no matter how they act. It is true.

    They call Welsh people " Taffys"

    I laughed the first time I heard it too. Sorry Wales.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Seriously, you guys need to get over this ****. It’s getting ridiculous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    Poor snowflakes, some people get so offended so easily.


    Quite laughable



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Ah yes the cohort of self deprecating pathetic Irishmen and women always rears its head on these threads.

    I know a lad who routinely had a potato put on his desk working in London. I had an MD joke that my team had been in the pub when we were late to a zoom call due to connection issues.

    But sing a rebel song and they're clutching their pearls. Not a whiff of self awareness off them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,522 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    It's not the use of the word Paddy. It's the context of the expression in the OP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Never heard of it before and couldn't care less. Will be catnip for the perpetually offended though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    So if someone said N…r in the woodpile would you say get over yourself to them or is it only the Irish people who need to ignore these historical prejudiced sayings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    Throw the tomm-y down the welll



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    It’s funny. Never heard this saying before. I thought it was new and the ‘Paddy’ is your man from the web summit.


    exhibit A-


    Post edited by cuttingtimber22 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    In fairness you have to understand how they came up with that impression of the Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Demonique


    Uh what? Someone being rude or bigoted towards you is not an excuse to be bigoted towards them

    In a forum I used to frequent one poster was homophobic to another poster who responded by being racist to them, they were both banned from the forum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Demonique


    Oh come off it, paddy is no where as offensive as the n-word

    Edit: Hit reply instead of quote replying, I meant to quote reply the poster who brought up the eenie meanie miney moe rhyme



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