BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP

Strazdas · 24-10-2022 10:50PM

UK journalist making the interesting point on the Tonight Show that Johnson being a useless and greedy layabout may well have blown up in his face this week. The fact that he was lying on a foreign beach when Truss resigned and was very slow to get back to Britain (when he should have been either in his constituency office or in Parliament) meant he lost a huge amount of momentum.

There's such a thing as karma I guess.

briany · 24-10-2022 11:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789331#Comment_119789331

Pretty spectacular display of fecklessness, alright. You'd think he'd have known the situation that was about to go down at least a week beforehand and started moving his chess pieces then. Anyway, maybe it wouldn't have made the difference. It's one thing to come back to the top job after a few years in the wilderness for your sins. It's quite another to come back after 44 days. Boris Johnson may consider himself a skilled at politicking, but that would have been a stroke of strokes. He can always console himself with all that sweet, sweet after-dinner speaking money.

patnor1011 · 24-10-2022 11:40PM

How long does anyone have to serve as PM in the UK to qualify for pension? I mean it start to look like some deal to get in as many as we can as fast as possible. Like who is next in line after Rishi?

Somehow I cant see him residing in No10 too long.

Padre_Pio · 24-10-2022 11:47PM

Where does all of this chaos leave Northern Ireland?

I see Westminster has finally pushed through the abortion legislation.

If Stormont doesn't convene by the 28th are we in for another election? Would the DUP stand to lose even more seats since they've been absolutely worthless for the past few months? It would be interesting to see Alliance and Sinn Fein pick up a few more seats and put the DUP in third place. A pro-nationalist and a non-affiliated party in the top job would be sweet to see.

kowloon · 24-10-2022 11:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789483#Comment_119789483

I think it came up before that the pension is based on time in the position, but they also get a public duty allowance of £115,000ish/yr for running an office, travel and any coke and hookers that can be written off as an expense

Capt'n Midnight · 24-10-2022 11:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789367#Comment_119789367

There's 22 other weeks of year when parliament doesn't sit. And there's been stuff going on.

Like Boris's two other holidays abroad since he ~~was forced out~~ stepped down

maebee · 25-10-2022 12:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789505#Comment_119789505

If Rishi leaves Chris Heaton Harris in place, it won't be good for Ireland.

Bass Reeves · 25-10-2022 04:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789509#Comment_119789509

I like the coke and hookers part.

Bass Reeves · 25-10-2022 04:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789627#Comment_119789627

I would take no notice. a lot will come down to who supported who in the leadership battle. However with the fact that there has to be decisions taken before the weekend that will come into play as well

joe40 · 25-10-2022 07:51AM

Rishi Sunak is a good candidate for the position of PM at the moment However, any self respecting British person with a shred of wit continuinng to vote Tory, after the debacle of the last few years is beyond me.

breezy1985 · 25-10-2022 08:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789627#Comment_119789627

Why. They are not going to touch the NIP same as they haven't touched it all along.

VinLieger · 25-10-2022 08:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119789627#Comment_119789627

Considering he just pushed through the abortion legislation against the DUPs wishes I wouldn't be so sure. Also they have bluffed every move so far and eventually folded why would they suddenly change their tune?

Peregrinus · 25-10-2022 08:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790015#Comment_119790015

Because they're also not going to do anything to change any of the conditions and circumstances that make the NIP problematic for unionists. NI is stuck in festering paralysis until there's a change of government in Westminster.

Bass Reeves · 25-10-2022 08:51AM

The one thing about Rishi is you wonder what he would bother. There are very few people in politics that being in politics means he will earn less and his wife's wealth will come under scrutiny.

Its costing him to be to be in politics. He and his wife are supposed to be worth over 700 million and have various business interests. As an MP he earns a out 84k sterling and about another 78k on top as PM. Admittedly he gets a free house however he and his wife have multiple houses already.

You just wonder why he would bother

breezy1985 · 25-10-2022 08:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790032#Comment_119790032

The deal was agrees, done, finished, oven ready. There is no change or negotiations to be had and the DUP just need to lump it.

If the DUP want change they can try not constantly backing the Tories who constantly sell them out.

breezy1985 · 25-10-2022 08:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790035#Comment_119790035

He does it to gain the power to ensure people like himself get to hoard as much of that money as possible.

ancapailldorcha · 25-10-2022 08:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790035#Comment_119790035

Prestige, maybe? Who knows. He's a non-domiciled millionaire. I'm not getting any of the excitement to be honest. He doesn't even believe in the state as anything other than a means of enriching his friends.

On the flip side, there must be a lot of Brexit-voting racists who are losing their minds about now. They voted for less immigration and now we have a PM from an Indian background.

Akrasia · 25-10-2022 09:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790051#Comment_119790051

At a mere 700 million net worth, he's sitting at the little boys table in the hyper rich club. Being a prime minister of a G7 country gets him the attention and privilege that not even marrying into obscene wealth can get you

Akrasia · 25-10-2022 09:06AM

Not to mention the fact that he can give tens of billions of pounds of public money away in corrupt government contracts and disaster capitalism works best at a time like this.

There'll be bailouts a plenty for the elites if he lasts long enough to enact such policies

25-10-2022 09:22AM

I think Rishi will be a good appointment for the UK.

Igotadose · 25-10-2022 09:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790130#Comment_119790130

I predict he'll last longer than his predecessor.

Bass Reeves · 25-10-2022 09:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790051#Comment_119790051

He was not non-domiciled. His wife was which she voluntarily regularised. He was a a Fulbright scholar which is an US academic educational swop system set up by a US senator after WW2. He attained US residency I imagine as a Fulbright scholar and because he had not renounced it, means he has to make a US tax return every year.

His wife would be similar to J P McManus in she is was non domiciled as the vast majority of her income was sourced from abroad and she was tax compliant there.

Akrasia · 25-10-2022 09:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790138#Comment_119790138

Are we talking more yoghurt shelf life than lettuce?

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2022 10:21AM

Does Truss only have one speech that she recycles, this is errant nonsense.

Also, hilariously "I Predict A Riot" can be heard blaring in the background

Furze99 · 25-10-2022 10:22AM

He's probably best for us in terms of stability. But I kinda doubt if he has much knowledge or interest in NI or even cares a hoot about it. So what was always a backwater for London, may soon have more tumbleweed blowing around than ever.

Quin_Dub · 25-10-2022 10:22AM

I heard the name Mark Francois for the first time in ages last night being quoted as saying that Sunak needed to make sure to include the ERG in his plans.

His ability to tame the various rabid factions is critical - I don't think he's the guy to do that though , he doesn't seem to have the necessary hard edge at least publicly.

That more than anything else will be the determining factor in how long he lasts.

VinLieger · 25-10-2022 10:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790349#Comment_119790349

For someone who is the current ERG chair hes been very quiet the last 2 years

PropJoe10 · 25-10-2022 10:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790349#Comment_119790349

The ERG is an absolute parody, a pack of dinosaurs stuck in the middle ages. If Sunak takes his lead from them, like Theresa May tried to do, then he won't last long either.

Penn · 25-10-2022 10:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790382#Comment_119790382

At the very least we should hopefully see less of Jacob Rees-Mogg, considering he backed Boris and has railed against Sunak in the past.

ancapailldorcha · 25-10-2022 10:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119790349#Comment_119790349

I can't see him being able to. Rees-Mogg openly calling him a socialists says much.

The ERG and the other headcases have tasted blood. They won't back down at this point.

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BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP