BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP

24-10-2022 10:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786009#Comment_119786009

A dozen Johnson supporters have switched to Sunak this morning and only one to Mordaunt. Very unlikely she’ll get to 100. Many of the ERG members have already declared for Sunak as well

i actually like Mordaunt. Her background is normal and interesting and she represents the constituency where she grew up. But she’s not right for now. She’d be good during a peaceful stable time, economically and geopolitically, when some of her ideas could rise to the top

Hoop66 · 24-10-2022 10:39AM

If she does get to 100 and gets on the ballot with the members, they'll vote her in. I don't qwhite know what it is, but...

24-10-2022 10:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119785712#Comment_119785712

It all comes down to perspective.

I mean, we could talk about Tony Blair and the illegal war in Iraq - which some estimate to have killed up to 1 million people.

That seems, to me at least, to contrast with Boris having a few drinks at his place of work during lockdown.

See where I'm coming from?

So whilst I'm not saying Boris is perfect, you need to zoom out to see the bigger picture. Does Boris sometimes lie? Yes, but all politicians do that - on both sides of the house.

Hoop66 · 24-10-2022 10:42AM

Is Tony Blair attempting to be re-elected leader of the Labour party? Then I fail to see the relevance of your post.

Shouldn't you be claiming to have always said Rishi was the man for the job by now?

24-10-2022 10:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786143#Comment_119786143

Rishi will be a good PM, to steady the ship.

He'll effectively act as an Asian Tony Blair; a centrist kind of approach that will differ little from Labour (at least on the big issues).

But he wasn't my first preference, as I said before, I don't think it was wise for the CP to depose Boris when they did.

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 10:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786143#Comment_119786143

Standard whataboutery. Anyone born in the last year of New Labour is over two thirds of the way towards being of age. They still trot this out.

breezy1985 · 24-10-2022 11:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786150#Comment_119786150

Not sure what an "Asian Tony Blair" is other than being obsessed with his ethnicity.

Paragraph 3 is just lies.

Akrasia · 24-10-2022 11:02AM

Assuming this is a coronation of Sunak now, the party should do everything they can to ensure he has as close to 357 letters backing him as possible

It would be a very bad look if he had less than half of the party supporting him from day 1

Shelga · 24-10-2022 11:05AM

“Asian Tony Blair” 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 11:07AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786233#Comment_119786233

They just can't help but get their little racist digs in.

astrofool · 24-10-2022 11:40AM

So, who would make ATB's cabinet? African Kenneth Clarke maybe? South American Peter Mandelson and a Scottish Gordon Brown?

Furze99 · 24-10-2022 11:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786052#Comment_119786052

Why? I'd have thought the Tory membership will also be lobbying MPs so as to allow for their vote. It's a secret ballot and she has the trump card in that she's a True Blue Brit.

24-10-2022 11:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786244#Comment_119786244

It's a figure of speech.

This will be the first PM from Asian stock. That's a good thing, no matter which side of the spectrum you sit.

But in terms of policy and approach, I think its safe to say that it will be a version of Tony Blair and less of the ERG.

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 11:58AM

These people are f*cking insane:

Boris Johnson ally Jacob Rees-Mogg has branded Rishi Sunak a ‘socialist’ and refused to serve in his cabinet should he become PM.

The Brexit-backing Conservative MP hit out at the former chancellor’s “disloyalty” to the Prime Minister after he resigned last Tuesday.

This comes after Rees-Mogg appeared to brand Sunak a socialist for high taxes during his time in charge of the government’s pursestrings.

https://www.cityam.com/brexit-opportunities-minister-jacob-rees-mogg-i-would-refuse-to-serve-in-socialist-rishi-sunaks-cabinet/

Nobody voted for this farce. We should be able to have an election. Every day, they get less and less democratic.

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 12:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786438#Comment_119786438

Nah, it's yet another disgusting racist comment from you.

Rather than Sunak being a man, an MP or PM in his own right, he's just an Asian equivalent of someone else.

I'm not remotely surprised to be honest. Utterly vile comment.

Panthro · 24-10-2022 12:03PM

I prefer "dishy Rishi" over "Asian tony Blair" but that's neither here nor there.

Quin_Dub · 24-10-2022 12:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786457#Comment_119786457

Could have said "A Tory Tony Blair" or just "A Tony Blair type character" , but went with "Asian Tony Blair"

Him being Asian is utterly irrelevant to the context of the post , but somehow it gets added to the mix .

Why is that I wonder?

breezy1985 · 24-10-2022 12:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786447#Comment_119786447

Mogg is not one bit insane he just doesn't give a sht what he says.

Its all just a laugh for him.

VinLieger · 24-10-2022 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786438#Comment_119786438

No first of all its not a figure of speech, you see we all know enough about you that you consider the title of "Tony Blair" as an insult therefore any name you apply with it is also meant to be a petty addon and another insult. You chose Asian because it is some bigoted dog whistle racism that's is par for the course with you.

Quin_Dub · 24-10-2022 12:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786435#Comment_119786435

I'm sure the Party membership are gagging for a chance to vote again , but that doesn't mean that the Parliamentary party want to let them.

Neither Sunak or Mordaunt are going to be capable of winning the next General Election but Sunak probably offers the better chance of limiting the damage done.

As I said previously , current polling levels would have the Tories losing 250+ seats at the next election , Sunak potentially offers a path to limiting those losses to under a 100. Mordaunt does not , simple as that.

Those MP's care more about their jobs than they do about the Tory party membership so they will do everything that they can to ensure that there is no vote which risks more of them losing their jobs.

24-10-2022 12:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786474#Comment_119786474

You don't think it's significant the UK is about to appoint its first PM with Asian heritage?

I do. I think it's significant and a step in the right direction.

The Torys have elected 3 women and now 1 PM from Asian stock. Far more diverse than what other parties have managed to achieve.

Danzy · 24-10-2022 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786498#Comment_119786498

It's not that Labour are against having a woman leader, the majority are also not against a Hindu leading either.

It's just it's activists and their modern interpretation of the left is middle class metropolitans.

It's the same reason that someone from Rochdale or an ex miner would never be picked.

It's a class and values divide.

24-10-2022 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786438#Comment_119786438

It's about as much a figure of speech as "human cargo" was,

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 12:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786490#Comment_119786490

The issue here is that Sunak won't be able to control his party and legislate. It's almost a bag of cats now. The Johnsonites hate him and the libertarians won't be happy about their grubby little tax handout being thwarted. The one nation group barely exist but they could still cause trouble. Worst of all, many MPs have no incentive to toe the line because they know they're on course to lose their seats.

Tony EH · 24-10-2022 12:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786447#Comment_119786447

Mogg is the type of shitbag that would have the workhouses back and children up chimneys if he had his way. An absolutely loathsome animal. If Sunak becoming PM sees the end of him, then that alone would be a good result.

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 12:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786562#Comment_119786562

Apologies if you've seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTATfc_QSg

If not, do watch. Mogg is a vile creature masquerading as a comedy act.

Quin_Dub · 24-10-2022 12:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786498#Comment_119786498

That may be, but in the context of your post about how he might attempt to emulate the centrist approach of Tony Blair the use of the phrase "Asian Tony Blair" is utterly unnecessary and not remotely relevant to the point you were trying to make.

His ethnicity has no bearing on what political approach he might choose to use to herd the cats in the Tory party , so why call it out?

Tony EH · 24-10-2022 12:32PM

Bloody Monty Python character.

24-10-2022 12:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786568#Comment_119786568

So you're attacking someone on the basis that him as a 12 year old saying he likes money and doesn't want to get married?

That's a bizarre justification to hate someone.

ancapailldorcha · 24-10-2022 12:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119786573#Comment_119786573

Sunak is the wealthiest man to ever sit in the House of Commons. Hardly representative of Asian people in the UK as a whole.

Funny how the right wing types happily play the race card when it suits them.

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