BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP

17-10-2022 04:18PM

Why should we be surprised she behaves like this when she backed out of debates during her election campaign. None of this should surprise anyone.

The necrotic members just responded to the claims to be Thatcherite like pavlovian dogs.

Quin_Dub · 17-10-2022 04:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756942#Comment_119756942

It really is a humiliation for her. She'd be better off quitting for her own sake.

That more than anything else will be the determining factor in how long she lasts as PM.

She's never ever getting back to a position of authority in the Party and no matter what she does , the Tories are losing 200+ seats at the next election.

How long will she be willing to be utterly humiliated at every turn , just so she can say "I'm the Prime Minister" ?

Akrasia · 17-10-2022 04:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756963#Comment_119756963

When Theresa May was fighting off VONC after VONC at least she put up a fight. Truss is being told to sit down and shut up, and she's just doing what she's told.

I'm just imagining the scenes where the Malcolm Tucker character explained to her in no uncertain terms what was expected of her going forward

Brussels Sprout · 17-10-2022 06:05PM

Didn't see any of this but from reading here and on twitter it sounds like Truss dodged this session, then showed up unexpectedly, stared into space for half an hour then abruptly left again?

Timberrrrrrrr · 17-10-2022 06:12PM

Hunt on C4 news at the moment has just said taxes will go up, another Tory promise down the drain, they really are staring into the abyss right now.

O'Neill · 17-10-2022 06:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757430#Comment_119757430

About summed it up. It was very bizare.

astrofool · 17-10-2022 06:42PM

Even Cowen managed a re-shuffle (of multiple ministries to the same people) when down and out.

This is just weird.

Iannucci wouldn't have been able to come up with this.

I wonder if she's even finished re-decorating with John Lewis yet.

ancapailldorcha · 17-10-2022 07:40PM

This is a **** disaster for them.

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1582039734846574592

Capt'n Midnight · 17-10-2022 07:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755461#Comment_119755461

Hunt is one of the 732 members of the Privy Council that can ~~tell the King what to do~~ talk to the King.

There is a quorum of three.

Or if they use the Opticians Act 1989 to get the foot in the door the quorum of the Privy Council shall be two.

Danzy · 17-10-2022 07:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756668#Comment_119756668

It is but it is also an economy that anyone who worked in an Office 20 years ago would remember, fax machines, the novelty of email as a business tool, very poor internet in much of the country, including cities it's incredibly stagnant in many ways as well, outside of many manufacturing.

It will take years to get the energy mix back correct and will it ever be as cheap as Russian gas. In all probability no.

Britain outperforming Germany is not a boast for them, eurozone growth has long been a problem for the continent.

Germany is living off companies that are decades old.

17-10-2022 07:50PM

At this point they should be thinking, "F*ck it. Labour, you can have it if you want? Here's my swipe card. Text me for the printer code."

Timberrrrrrrr · 17-10-2022 07:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757818#Comment_119757818

At this rate they won't even be the opposition party.

17-10-2022 07:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757850#Comment_119757850

This is all very dubious analysis. Companies with the diversity and inovation to last for decades (even centuries) has got to better than companies which come and go in the blink of an eye.

Bosch, Siemens and VW are some of the strongest brands in the world

And it's a country which has accepted the necessity of zero carbon energy and developed a long term strategic plan to achieve it.

The UK is a basket case in comparison.

ancapailldorcha · 17-10-2022 08:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757879#Comment_119757879

Jokes aside, who votes for these cretins now?

Your one percenters are a given but they're by definition nowhere near enough. The middle classes are the ones who're paying through the noses for holidays and trips to their villas that were significantly cheaper half a decade ago. The working classes, well I suppose it depends on how levelled up they feel.

Personally, I'm surprised that nobody in the party is wondering where the next generation of Tories comes from given that so many of those in their thirties can't afford homes or families of their own. Where are the future Tories coming from?

I'd be curious to hear from older English people if Truss and Johnson are as toxic as Maggie and John Major were at the end.

Danzy · 17-10-2022 08:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756618#Comment_119756618

That's probably why Truss couldn't make the questions.

You are spot on.

17-10-2022 08:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757918#Comment_119757918

They finally managed to **** all over their natural base of baby boomers and destroy the value of their pensions. Many are to senile to join the dots, but surely the rest will final see the penny drop.

My mother is a Tory supporter in her late 70's and it will be interesting to see her take on things when I see her in a few days. She defendedBoris till his dying day.

I think their plan was to go full fascist and capture a new demographic of the poor white semi-employed but they seem to have blown that as well.

ancapailldorcha · 17-10-2022 08:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757974#Comment_119757974

I don't think they have the intellectual capacity to carry out a plan of that nature. That said, you'd have to be deeply unintelligent to forget how crucial the grey vote is. Even LePen knows that you can't jeopardise pensions.

I'd be keen to hear what your mother thinks.

storker · 17-10-2022 08:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757818#Comment_119757818

Incredible. The whole of London and the south-east returning Labour MPs. Only possible, of course, due to FPTP. Wouldn't it be ironic if the prospect of such a thrashing prompted the Tories to bring in PR...

It's far more likely though, that there'll be another farce of a leadership contest followed by the Tories hanging on like grim death for two years with a big splurge in a pre-election giveaway budget, hoping that will do the trick. If a week is a long time on politics, two years is an eternity. Anything can, and on current form probably will, happen.

17-10-2022 08:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758073#Comment_119758073

If they try to implement more austerity for two years then the inner cities will explode. Since they can't borrow their way out of this and they won't tax the corporation and billionaires they have zero options to ride this out.

Muahahaha · 17-10-2022 09:06PM

She is being interviewed on BBC News at Ten right now

Itssoeasy · 17-10-2022 09:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758252#Comment_119758252

Is it with Chris mason ? The audio is part of an episode of newscast and it’s not as bad as it has been.

Muahahaha · 17-10-2022 09:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758319#Comment_119758319

yeah it was Mason. Truss apologised for going 'too fast too soon' but in her apology referred to 'we' rather than '!'. Was some uncomfortable questions but she got through it, even declaring she would lead the Tories into the next election

thebaz · 17-10-2022 09:28PM

Truss is so appalling , but the disaster show was orchcestrated by Boris and the Brexit lies - The British public have been sold a lie and its coming home to roost with the demise of the right wing Tories , hope UKIP dont fill the gap again.

Strazdas · 17-10-2022 09:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758363#Comment_119758363

The right wing press were also a huge factor. Cheerleaders for Brexit and then Johnson and acted in a highly irresponsible manner - told lie after lie and behaved as if they and the Tory Brexiteers were now jointly running the country. The whole affair has been a quite disastrous failure for UK politics and their media. The only thing that could be worse than this is if the place went bankrupt and the IMF had to be called in.

humberklog · 17-10-2022 09:39PM

I thought Hunt put in a good shift today.

It was a pleasure to hear a level headed Tory address the House.

17-10-2022 09:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757974#Comment_119757974

My mother is the same age and all she can go on about is Boris, even when I spoke to her over this last weekend. She says it’s the same in her bridge and mahjong groups. It’s incredible how he got his claws into that demographic of women

17-10-2022 10:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758420#Comment_119758420

That level headed Tory left the NHS in a far worse state than it was in when he took over. If you think Austerity 2.0, or Hunt, is going to be the answer to the UK's and the Tories problems you are going to be disappointed.

Danzy · 17-10-2022 10:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758589#Comment_119758589

He did well today, for whatever that is worth.

Floppybits · 17-10-2022 10:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758589#Comment_119758589

Sometimes the jobs that some are given don't suit them and then they get another one and are pretty good at it. Could be this way with Hunt.

Strazdas · 17-10-2022 10:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758524#Comment_119758524

I suppose it's not much different than Trump - an obviously vile and deeply reprehensible individual but someone who has tens of millions of fans in the US.

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