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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    I'm a bit out of date - what is the wattage on GPUs these days? 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    It is coming to this stage this winter (if you will be able to afford it)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Good to see the French leading the way on actually energy saving. Cant actually believe stuff like this has not already been done if the climate change catastrophe is true. Gov Buildings turning down the heating to 18 no hot water. Private companies tackling it by moving to production at night that will only work till night becomes peak use though. Simple low hanging stuff like this makes the difference not swathes of windfarms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That must be a near top of the line card, because my son's is 360w.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    About to head of on holidays and just noticed this on another thread. No time to get into it there, but just thought in relation to figures there for 30GW offshore we would be repaying, one way or the other over, €3Bn per year for 25 years + the interest on €83Bn + the cost of the electricity + a profit to the investors. And we would be doing that for a further 2 cycles, (based on nuclear plant life span being 75 years),and all that without the added cost of hydrogen.

    Anyway, as I said, no time to get into it on that thread so just a thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,448 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Screenshot_20221011-174052~2.png

    Councillor Colette Finn (Grn) Cork City Council, losing her damn mind in response to residents concerned about buses driving through their front gardens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Looks like the retrofitting scheme is not very successful as expected. Just 637 one stop shop applications are in progress with just 1,270 assessments in the pipeline. Only 231 houses brought to B2 standard this year though the warmer homes scheme for welfare families so far. Shockingly low numbers. Of 11,254 applications under the Warmer Homes scheme, the vast majority - almost 7,000 - have not yet begun. We're supposed to have 500,000 B2 retrofits since by 2030. 😂

    The fact that most of these upgrades remain out of financial reach for people who don't qualify for free retrofitting is mentioned. An unmitigated disaster all round really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    This comes as a huge shock … to absolutely no one with any sense. The one bit that keeps getting missed is that even to those with money, who can afford it, the whole retrofitting nonsense makes no sense. Why throw away money on heat pumps when a little bit of insulation and sticking with an efficient condensing boiler makes far more sense?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,017 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Quick question- are the ESB allowed build new generating stations (renewable or conventional) in Ireland, or does it have to be a private company or a mixture of both?

    Im thinking competition laws here - which was the reason ESB was broke up in the first place.



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    An interesting proposal in New Zealand to directly tax the emissions from farm animals. Possibly something we could emulate here

    RTE news : New Zealand outlines plan to tax livestock burps, farts





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    https://graphics.reuters.com/UKRAINE-CRISIS/EUROPE-GAS/zdvxozxzopx/

    Gas storage in the EU.

    I was wondering why we weren't on the list. Apparently it's because we have no gas storage whatsoever, everything is kept on demand.

    What the fcuk is wrong with this country?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭ginger22


    perhaps would be more appropriate to tax some of the emissions from "greens" on here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    This is becoming pure comedy central. Look at shining example of european green energy which is going to waste $5.9 billion. God knows what "carbon footprint" will that have. "Thermal recycling" - cue in most of the eu going for what used to be waste incineration before greens come to the picture. What a beautiful name thermal recycling...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    so burning it and capturing the carbon. Like we can do with all our rubbish and make power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    There is a similar situation in Galway, greens were screaming about people losing property to CPO to build by pass around city, but not a word about property owners losing out to bus connect corridors, double standards again from the greens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭ps200306




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    Very interesting. The statement is worth reading. Obviously the markets see the failure of renewables as a stand alone and are now acknowledging that reliable base load is an absolute necessity. Nuclear is the obvious clean solution.

    Interesting also that Brookfield divested itself of wind generation assets in Ireland just last year.

    The writing is on the wall for Green renewable energy idiocy and the adults are now taking charge. A great development



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,017 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    No gas storage but we do have 90 days oil storage……..but that’s held offshore on whiddy island and we’ve no pipeline connected from there to the rest of Ireland and no fleet of barges to move it 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭JoeCat


    Glad to see this forum pointing out how the green policies are destroying Ireland and most of the Western countries. What a scam. Our politicians have no shame. It looks like they don't know how to do it anymore to destroy the livelihood of our farmers (instead of defending them!) and charging more and more useless taxes, for their pockets and to make the population as poor as possible.

    By the way, not sure if it has been commented. In any normal country this would be stopped in courts for discrimination, here the politicians clap their hands:


    AIB offering much cheaper "Green" loans and mortgages than for normal citizens.

    https://aib.ie/our-products/mortgages/green-mortgage

    https://aib.ie/our-products/loans/green-personal-loan


    By law it should be prohibited.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,448 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    On the 'what is wrong with this Country?' question, might I direct you to the saga surrounding the Corrib gas on-shore refinery, the Poolbeg incinerator and the ongoing shytshow surrounding the same facility in Ringsaskiddy, to name but a few.

    We supposedly have legislation to expedite Strategic Infrastructure in this State, namely the 7th Schedule of the Planning and Development Acts, as amended. However this is largely bullshyt because the Courts consider far too many appeals, which are only supposed to be on procedural matters, not matters of Planning, but the evidence is to the contrary.

    This isn't helped of course, by the mysterious decision making and general mess that is An Bord Pleanála who deal with these applications in the first place, and who never deal with them within the prescribed period either, which to be fair, is as much a matter of resourcing for which blame can be laid at successive Government's doors.

    In my opinion, the only way we can catch up quickly enough, is to mirror the provisions of the Defence Acts, where the Minister for Defence can enable a defence base/installation, without any recourse to Planning law, so long as it doesn't exceed certain tolerances.

    We need such laws for the State when it comes to energy, waste and water infrastructure too, within a quantum certain tolerances and engineering standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    But how would that work when the Minister for Energy runs his portfolio based on crackpot ideology? The really appalling vista is that SF get in next, and if the Greens miraculously still have a seat, SF may need them to form a government and give them Energy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭ps200306


    Ryan's own department deals with "planning" for hydrocarbon exploration and development. There are two projects (Inishkea and Barryroe) looking for permits under existing licenses and Ryan has sat on them for a combined two years without making a decision. It could be a resourcing issue in the department, or it could be that he just hopes the companies involved will go away and die if he drags his feet long enough. Probably the latter as he has shut down the Petroleum Affairs Division of the department. Previously he took 14 months just to sign off on a 48-hour seabed survey. Unforgivable at a time when Europe is starved of energy, and private companies -- whom the government had previously courted -- are willing to stump up the cash for development.



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's just a guess but maybe the issue with Barryroe is the financial viability of Providence who appear to be on life support at present. One of the conditions of licence approval is the licensee has to show they have the skills, expertise and funding in place to complete the full works. This is to prevent an entity leaving something incomplete which may have a detrimental environmental impact.

    The markets appear to have lost confidence in Providence with it now being traded as a penny stock so it may not have long left.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think you’ll find every country does them. If you’re doing to go to the expense of getting your upgraded, I think a preferential rate is only fair enough. I pay less car tax on a greener car…..I don’t see anyone arguing that that isn’t fair

    (I don’t have a green loan by the way, and not paying to get my house up to the standard)



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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Solar panel installations are growing rapidly, so much so that the costs are increasing due to the demand.

    It's crazy to think that 33% of all solar power generation in the country was installed in the last 12 months and its only increasing. At this rate there'll be over 1GW of residential solar with 3 years

    RTE news : Rooftop solar panels: Are they worth the investment?





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