Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

I defer to the consensus. I look at what all surgeon generals and equivalent health professionals are saying, not just one.

The above is an example of what I'm referring to and why context is important.

The context:

Note the part of that statement you didn't bold:

"With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac related death among men in this age group. The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old. "

We are at a late stage in the pandemic, a significant portion of the population is vaccinated or has had the virus. That's important.

Secondly, this is one state out of 50 states.

Thirdly, I don't think I need to point out that Florida is well known for it's politics over science issues.

Number four, it's apparently based on this: https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-analysis.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery which is preliminary data and doesn't paint a very compelling picture either way

Number five. There have been 17,000 deaths among 18-39 year old males in the US from Covid, many of whom were unvaccinated. I'm not seeing a correspondingly high number or any significant number of myocarditis deaths https://data.cdc.gov/widgets/9bhg-hcku

Is this a country saying vaccines are safe? No. It's one state out of 50 making the controversial decision, at this very late stage in the pandemic, that a certain age group of a certain sex is not recommended to get the vaccine as a very tiny number of them may get a myocarditis vs a very tiny number of them at risk of dying from Covid.

This is why context is important.

Oh gee, well would you look at that

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida’s controversial surgeon general announced Monday that the state is breaking with guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and will be the first state in the nation to recommend against giving the Covid-19 vaccines to kids ages 5 and older.

Florida Surgeon General Joseph A. Ladapo, speaking at a roundtable Monday with Gov. Ron DeSantis and medical professionals who oppose much of the CDC’s recommendations, did not elaborate. Two others who participated in the discussion were Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford University professor of medicine, and biostatistician Martin Kuldorff. Both were the chief signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration, which calls for a hands-off approach toward managing the pandemic and instead advocates for natural “herd immunity.”

"Ladapo in particular has been an outspoken critic of pandemic-era safety measures such as quarantines, wearing face masks and vaccines. DeSantis picked Ladapo to become surgeon general in September, which was three months after the surgeon general petitioned the CDC to withhold giving final authorization to the vaccines without years of clinical studies and trials in June."

And now switching over to Denmark for something with different context. Gish gallop very much setting in.

Here's why Denmark are not offering the vaccinations to people under 50.

"The purpose of the vaccination programme is to prevent severe illness, hospitalisation and death. Therefore, people at the highest risk of becoming severely ill will be offered booster vaccination. The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination.

People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population.

It is important that the population also remembers the guidance on how to prevent the spread of infection, including staying at home in case of illness, frequent aeration or ventilation, social distancing, good coughing etiquette, hand hygiene and cleaning."

Again, none of these replies are for your benefit.