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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I thanked the post in relation to the professional drivers bit but have no idea why you think the infrastructure is terrible.

    I use this roundabout most days and it's clear as day that there's a 'lane' on your left that you need to be aware of. Thanks to Buffalo above i think it's pretty much set in stone now that a cycle track is indeed a lane which you need to yield to when crossing it, like any other.

    It actually caused me to spend the rest of the day observing drivers turning left opposite me to see how many checked their left mirror before turning. It was pretty shocking tbh..

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not sure i'd stop and take photos of someone being treated at the scene of a collision like that.

    she can't be identified in the photo but it is a bit ghoulish.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Because it’s a sub-standard design, as can be seen in any country with decent cycling infrastructure and any new project implementing cycling infrastructure. You’re actively putting cyclists into points of conflict with drivers and hoping that the drivers aren’t idiots, which time and time again leads to incidents like this due to lack of enforcement and just general road user arseholeishness.

    Look, I understand that you’re a more confident road user and are willing to stand your ground with drivers, but there’s a lot more people who want protected infrastructure because they don’t trust drivers to not be knobheads.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I completely agree with you, but the ancient lay out of our infrastructure means that points of conflict are always going to arise.

    My point is the solution should be strict enforcement and education of drivers, not blaming infrastructure or placing the onus on cyclists to have more cop on.

    It's not as if we weren't taught all this stuff.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    The solution isn’t necessarily one or the other though, that’s why I said it’s both terrible infrastructure and ignorant awful driving.

    We can have protected infrastructure while also pushing for stronger enforcement and education for drivers, the problem is in this country you’ll be waiting an awful lot longer for the latter compared to minimising the chance a driver has to run you over.

    As grim as it sounds I’d almost say that the driver who caused this collision probably won’t see any major repercussions for this unless theres strong witness statements or someone comes forward with dash cam footage. And even then it would depend on what judge he’s up in front of. When realistically his PSV licence should be revoked.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    It seems that some people need stuff to be shoved in their faces to make them cop on to the possible consequences of their perceived God given rights when driving.

    I have no issue with someone posting pics to achieve that aim if that's what it takes.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Unfortunately you are no doubt correct in that assessment

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    who's going to see it though? irish cycling twitter. preaching to the choir.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    You know as well as i do that there's been a few on here waxing about their right to ignore a cycle lane, that's a start.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭9320


    Nearly got absolutely creamed in the Bus Lane on Manor Street yesterday - van parked illegally in the bus lane and the delivery guy swung the door open without checking and thankfully the brakes on my Dublin Bike were good or I would have had a mushed up face.

    He was apologetic which was refreshing and I doubt he'll do that again but was seriously frightening. The illegal parking element went right over his head.

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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't know, its not unusual (in my personal experience) to have a few a day of varying degrees with 1-2 downright dangerous ones on a weekly basis

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    I think part of it is he has no problem in asserting himself and taking the primary position, but the definition of primary position aka smack in the middle of the road, and aggressive drivers interpret that as him taking the piss and react like arseholes.

    The punishment pass above for example, he was overtaken, driver had slowed because of the tractor (I don’t necessarily know if the driver stopped to let the tractor go as he mentions in his tweet it looks like the tractor was turning while the van was a fair distance back) and he passes the van and swings out into the primary. Perfectly entitled to do so, but arsehole behind the wheel is probably thinking he’s doing it to annoy him.

    Bit like when you overtake someone, you both get to a set of lights 200m down the road and they jump the queue ahead of you, and you have to overtake them again ten seconds later. You think to yourself what’s the point but unlike arsehole in the van you don’t try push them off their bike.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Agree, the overtake looks scary even on the video, could easily have been a second vehicle turning behind the tractor which he mightn't have seen. Think that's what annoyed the driver more than anything, you can here him beeping as he passes.

    Driver's still an arseh*le though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


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    I've to come this road to get home on maybe 70% of my rides. Unlimited close passes with drivers mounting the raised central reservation, even when I place myself bang in the middle of the lane. Its one of those places that seems to really pi$$ some drivers off to the point I'd be so nervous that I sometimes ride on the footpath 🙄

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


    If it were me i'd be dropping into my/the local Garda station and having a friendly chat about placing a guard there the odd day.

    As likely as anything to fall on deaf ears but if it's as regular as you say it is the prospect of shooting a few fish in a barrel might be quite enticing to them.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i once reported an RTC to ashbourne gardai (i was i think 4.7km away from ashbourne garda station); thankfully no one seriously injured, but enough to close a busy road. the garda i was talking to couldn't have been more disinterested, they told me to ring balbriggan (20km away)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭standardg60


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    😂 I laugh because as magicbastarder says, they couldn't be bothered, I was left hooked & hit last year, she left the scene, whilst 2 Gardai showed up, they did absolutely nothing about it!

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    for people who know the area around ashbourne, that RTC we arrived on was on the bad double bend just below sam dennigans on the garristown road; the road was closed and dennigan's trucks were queuing up. we had to wait 40+ minutes for a car from balbriggan to show.

    it was two german lads in a rental who got distracted coming around one of the bends and ended up on the wrong side of the road, resulting in an oblique head on collision. they were amazed at how helpful everyone was, they thought there'd be an angry mob due to them having caused the collision.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,010 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    It can go either way, once attending a collision where a back brace was needed and the ambulance had blocked the road for safety. There were drivers giving out saying they could leave space to pass, one was informing me of the importance of his train that had never been late in all his years working for Irish rail, started F'in and blinding. EMT gave him short thrift, he had 3 options, keep quiet, turn around and go another way or the next blue lights would be a Garda car coming to take him to the station.

    Some people are nice, and sadly some people are not. Thankfully the former are in the majority but sadly the latter are the more memorable.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Luxman


    Would the Dublin/meath border factor into it? Not making excuses for the response which was unacceptable.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,883 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Until Ireland starts to report why an accident happened, things will never change in Ireland. So many accidents on roads lately and never a cause of accident explain. Its like the state wants to put the head in the sand like it did for mental health in the past

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    You might flesh that out; who explains why the accident happened? A reporter, a Garda?

    How soon after?

    Who examines scene, examines vehicles, interviews parties involved or any independent witnesses?

    Would such a process prejudice any other matters be they criminal, civil, coroner's court etc?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,883 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    After the court case and coroner's report. The cause of the accident is known majority of the time from the team that investigates it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Court cases are report all the time. What change are you looking for?

    Your original post read like you want to read about the cause/responsibility immediately? Maybe i misread it?

    Even experienced investigators can jump to conclusions or have a certain bias which may need to be tested; I would have thought it was only fair that all parties got access to due process

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,883 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Wasn't meaning straight away, but not all accidents end up in court. Been in court before for an accident and unless it gets reported afterwards, it goes under the radar.


    What I would be looking for after all legal stuff is sorted etc that there be a section in the paper for all accidents and the cause is printed.


    I think this would open more eyes to the issues on our roads.


    Now you might say the family wouldn't like that, but trust me, a day after an accident most people living close to the family knows exactly what happened and if they don't, they make up rumours which is worst than the facts

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,562 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    the excuse i was given was that where the incident occurred is in the garristown area from an AGS perspective; and that's a part time station, and when it's closed, balbriggan look after it.

    however, i reached out to the garda press office (can't remember why) and they apologised and said that when i mentioned it was an RTC, the garda should have logged it to the main despatch office to decide which car to send. they said they'd reach out to the superintendents in balbriggan and ashbourne.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Not publicly available yet, unfortunately, pending possible appeal.

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