Queen Elizabeth II dies

The laws in Scotland and the UK etc. are not the same. So what were they actually arrested for. AFAIK they weren't all arrested under (or for) the same reasons.

They have a get out clause legally as I understand it.

Ultimately they achieved their aim. Removed the protest/potential disturbance the protesters got media exposure.

The queen is dead, I wonder will life ever be sane again?

was it ever sane.

You are just getting yourself worked up for nothing. It is a lovely day. Go for walk don’t be getting het up about posters it is not healthy. But you seem to bring some of it on yourself in fairness. With statements which have been questioned, but not answered properly.

If you want to live a long life good medical attention as the Royal family receives helps. But in general the success to a long life is not to get worried/angry by inconsequential distant events or people. You end up burdening yourself pointlessly.

It a very ambiguous situation that some Irish people find themselves in.

They really struggle to accept certain things about Britain like the popularity of the royal family and the popularity of Britain itself abroad and the esteem it is held in in many countries.

They sneer at the concept of Commonwealth or the special relationship between the US and UK, which are very real and beneficial entities to all involved.

You will see similar in a few months at the world cup, any victory by England will have will be belittled and any loss over hyped.

And there will be the inevitable sneering at the English public about the support they show in their team.

But at the same time, the very same Irish people cannot get enough of British sports, media, music, fashion, entertainment etc etc.

And while consuming that media they cannot see that the coverage of events like the death of the queen is for the consumption of the British people, not them, not anyone else.

It must be really difficult to live like that.

I think you can point out the absurdity of monarchy without it being related to current feelings on the British or the history of anglo Irish relations. Undoubtedly the monarchy is very popular in the UK as it is still in alot of other countries- it survives because so many people buy in to the fantasy that an individual or institution can represent the nation. That someone is born for that position, like the queen had a destiny to be the queen.

Anyway I hope Charles lives for a few years now, he waited so long to get the job- will be interesting if the toxic media over there that have mocked him for a lot of his life are more charitable in their coverage of him now.

The Brits got lucky with Elizabeth. She was young, good looking and vivacious when she became Queen, as well as being hard working and taking the role seriously.

Apparently Churchill had major reservations about her but as soon as she settled into the job, he realised she was absolutely perfect for it.

Did she become bigger than the monarchy itself? It's quite possible.

I dont think she was bigger thqman the monarchy. She is quite similar to Queen Victoria in that a few years most people will struggle to think of anything substantial she did and the detractors will blame her for bad things she had no control over.

Two of you in it in Fairness.

Obviously not everyone was reasonable as the mods had to step in.

For sure, but I think the modernisation of society and the emergence of things like television and subsequently the internet would have posed unique risks to something like the monarchy. The institution is very archaic and old fashioned and rooted in the past and modernity was always going to be a big challenge to it.

Apparently, Elizabeth in 1953 said something like "I cannot be an old fashioned queen and lead you into battle, but I can still try and serve you in other ways". She understood instinctively that the role of the monarch and the royal family was changing and she would have to adapt.