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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Gmaximum


    It’s genius! I’ll be doing the same before my BGE increase kicks in. Unfortunately I’ve a smart meter for the electric



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭tall chapy


    Hi Masterboy, your profile is set to private. Message me on boards and see how we go and/or leave an email address.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Hatshepsut


    Hi all, I've been following this thread and about a month ago changed from SSE to Flogas, it was cheaper considering my usage, the standing charge and I got the cashback. And yes I agree it's a complete minefield for people trying to switch and valuable time wasted trying to size up all the comparison sites and offers etc. You'd need to take 2 paracetamol before sitting down to negotiate all the plans and their intricacies.

    I have a 24hr meter, one of the old types and I got a txt last week to say TLI Group on behalf of ESB networks will be contacting me shortly to change me over to a smart meter. I am not sure if this is a good thing, a few people on here thought the smart meter was a pure con and no savings were being made, at least 1 person was even looking to get rid of theirs I think from pages back. So I am here looking for advice - do I stick with my normal honest to god meter or make the switch to a smart meter? Also if it is better not to get the smart one, can I refuse it? All input/advice/pros/cons welcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭Invincible


    You are with your rights to refuse a start meter. Neighbour work for esb and said They've opened numerous meter boxes to fine a not not to install smart meter and contact homeowner. I've heard the smart meters have gone on fire, whether that had anything to do with the sitting gear incorporated in meter, to facilitate remote disconnection or not. Send an email or phone them with your mprn number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Gmaximum




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    PandaPower …. their prices were always high, I’d doubt they’ve that many customers and will hardly rattle the energy market much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,140 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    60,000 customers is still a fair chunk that will now be moving to other companies who can gouge as they so wish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Their customer care agents are as of now telling people the story is false and they are not leaving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    60000 - wow, good point I’m surprised they’ve that many!

    It’s a crazy phenomenon that wind generated electricity is based on gas prices - they’re making a huge profit on these price hikes!

    Spoke to a stove installer today - he’s flat-out with calls!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    I hope customers realise that will have a limited period of time to choose a new supplier or they will default to the supplier of last resort and will be stuck on that supplier's standard rate for the next 3 months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Can't do that if Panda insist this isn't happening. I tried!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Be very careful.


    it's actually fraud, and ESB Networks actively monitor customer readings to look out for this activity, and can prosecute if they so wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    Yep, it's not something I'd recommend either, best staying honest. However, I keep an eye on the date when prices increase and make sure to submit a reading to ESB networks on this day so I'm not overpaying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    There’s definitely something going on with Panda Power confirmed by Irish times, bonkers, news on the radio, breaking news etc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's on breakingnews also: https://www.breakingnews.ie/business/energy-supplier-panda-power-leaves-irish-market-1363317.html

    If true then one less option when people move suppliers. I'd say there will be less smaller players in the Irish energy market going forward. Going the same way as the banks now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭tscul32


    Customer service saying it's false news, but Charlie Weston saying to watch this space. He says it'll all come out in the next day or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    There’s no smoke without fire but hopefully the staff were/will be be informed before the media if it were to happen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Surely you can switch at any time as long as you pay the breach of contract fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    I’d imagine so too, I’d expect a supplier leaving the market to waive the exit fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Yes but I’d have preferred them to admit it’s happening and waive the fee. I thought that would be standard no?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    I agree. The danger is that they will switch you to The Supplier of Last Resort (Electric Ireland for electricity & Bord Gais for gas) and you end up on their highest unit rates for the next 90 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Exactly what I’m trying to avoid. I’d rather take the €50 hit!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    Would that really happen? That youd be switched to an entirely different rate with another provider overnight (Id be very surprised). I wonder what happened with Iberdrola customers? - there's so much talk about easing costs for consumers. As soon as the exit is announced as official Id

    • look at when the exit date is to take effect (Id be surprised if its overnight)
    • compare and see if theres a better rate available now (if so switch & I should think the exit fee will be waived).
    • If your current rate is better than other suppliers , wait until the market exit is due and switch 2 weeks beforehand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    The exit would be immediate and correct me

    if I’m wrong but everyone would automatically me switched over to EI for electric and BGE for gas and you’ve 3 days to change if your not happy otherwise tied into a 3 month contract. Isn’t that what happened to Iberdrola customers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    ..Yep would be good to get clarity on that :-)

    Checked current Panda prices -theyre currently double the price compared to Bord Gáis @ 40c per Kwh. If I were on current panda rates I'd change as soon as they make their exit official (or now) and try and get the exit fee waived.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭FoxForce5


    Trying to figure out my yearly consumption from the smart meter installed August 2021 but the video on electric Ireland of the kamstrup meter bares no relationship to the screen I have . I thought all kamstrup was the same. According to the meter I used 4809kwh in past yr but the previous yr with old meter was 8500kwh ???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    I don’t know what you think an exit is but basically they have no l no money. They gave customers on cheaper rates (locked in) and are themselves paying high rates. Makes sense to exit, fold, go belly up whatever. The Supplier of Last Resort (Electric Ireland for electricity & Bord Gais for gas) automatically applies in these cases. These companies have to take the customers from a folded company



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    That's what happened to Iberdrola customers! Some Iberdrola customers managed to switch to cheaper plans but apparently it has to be done within 3 days of being moved to EI or BGE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,685 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Indo piece says: “It’s likely more suppliers will fall over the coming months,” Mr Cassidy said.

    So, who is next..?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,010 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I would be wary of anyone without generation assets. However, outside of Flogas - who are owned by DCC who are a huge fuels firm across Europe by now - I don't know who else is left? The two prepay only firms - that will cause an almighty mess for their electricity customers using the supplementary meters. And Iberdrola did have generation assets here, so its no guarantee.



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