Queen Elizabeth II dies

Not a statement on any individual but I just googled there and in the UK, the sovereign's personal wealth is not subject to inheritance tax.

A topic perhaps for another thread, but I thought it was interesting. Not 100% unexpected but still interesting.

her army affected my upbring and my experiences until my late teens - as it did many others - and inso much as she being the head of the BA (no matter if thats ceremonial or not) the office of the queen has a lot to answer for, their empire and money based on the suffering of others.

in saying that, a person has died and on that level, she has family who are grieving as any family would when a member dies. no matter what her office and what she was born into, it's a sad affair when anyone dies.

And where are their statements on all the other monarchs in Europe and throughout the world? The Thai king died a few years back, I don’t see a statement from PBP about that.

And I am a supporter of the monarchy

If you live and work in Ireland you aren't, support for the monarchy is not optional, it is deducted at source.

You like the Monarchy.

Good for you. But I know you are bewildered, but other people particular Irish people may have a differing view.

the statement was fact, and it will be what many are thinking but won't say even though they should.

yes absolutely i am anti-monarchy and prowdly so and have made that clear, i am not going to change that stance because the queen has died, sympathetic to her family as i am as it will be hard to lose a mother and granmother whatever the age, even if expected. especiallly as they lost a father and granfather within the last year also.

but facts don't go away because a well known figure dies.

oh and your allegation of me being anti-british is false as you know, why do you keep spreading this lie about me?

i have relatives who are british for god sake, so it would be hard for me to be anti-british without being anti-them as well.

The only person to mention 800 years or anything close to it is you.

Another strawman, trying to dismiss posters' valid arguments as being "oh 800 years republican f- the queen" type stuff. There are totally valid reasons to criticise the monarchy - although it seems there are very few reasons worth actually supporting them.

The Queen up until her death (and likely beyond it) represents the institution of the monarchy in Britain. Totally valid to be glad she's gone, even if it's not the end of the monarchy itself (yet).

Also her personal business dealings and association with shady characters does not look great for her either.

Fair enough. I take back the anti British bit. That was wrong.

Anyway, at least you have actually shown some decorum and respect on how you addressed this, being anti Royal.

You showed a human side and a human emotion to the death of a human being, who had family and people who loved her.

That other shower didn’t offer up a single shred of common human decency in that crass statement.

It's their view on the matter but not the right time to express it. If they have nothing good to say then say nothing at all till at least she's buried, it's called having a little respect and tact.

PBP are a joke, they call for sanctions against Isreal yet complain when sanctions are brought against Russia, Russia who invaded a country and are killing innocent people as well. They would give this country away for their ideals.

I think people get upset because an Irish person not wanting to be British in Ireland could be murdered by the British state for feeling that way.

The Irish nation doesn't have any territorial claims on the English, Scottish or Welsh peoples, but the same is not true in reverse.

An institution can move with the times, no?

Become part of a modern society? The crown today is a whole lot different than years gone by. Like everything, we change and move with the times.

I think people forget that the crown is modern present day human beings. Us!!! Thousands of people employed to keep it running, and much wealth and jobs and taxes generated, that all goes around. Many people employed directly and indirectly due to its existence

Who are you, or we to tell another country on what is and is not acceptable or what is or is not modern/archaic? The arrogance! Or tell people who support the crown that they aren't living in the present?

Plenty plenty British and commonwealth people love and want their monarchy. Leave them to love and want it. No laws against it existing and functioning and blending in with society.

they had no need to.