Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

Enigma IE · 07-09-2022 09:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119582856#Comment_119582856

Yes, you are correct. However they may reduce it from 5k or change the criteria so that it is not applicable or reduced for cars over a certain price - like a Tesla. Ultimately the tax payer picks up the tab for the SEAI grant, so it's predicted they will reduce or remove it over time.

mc2022B2TF · 07-09-2022 09:31AM

indeed and given the current cost of living the question will be "sure if you can afford 60k on a car do u really need a grant"

I can see the threshold being lowered to 50k or even 40k and VRT relief and seai grants being also lowered.

Problem with that is show me a decent family car/suv EV that you can buy for those prices. They either dont exist or have unknown delivery dates.

speedfreak · 07-09-2022 09:35AM

Do current m3 owners rotate their tyres? I’ve passed 10k kms which Tesla recommend is the point to rotate. If you’ve done so, did you organise via ranger and how much €€?

ELM327 · 07-09-2022 09:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119582856#Comment_119582856

People paying 60k for a new car dont need grants. It's a bad use of money. Speaking as someone who bought an MSM M3 SR+ specifically because of the grant! (Because I think it will go away soon and I'll profit the appreciation in price when trading in)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119582946#Comment_119582946

Tires rotate every time you drive. If you'd like tesla to rotate them for you you can book it in the app, the ranger does it, and it's approx 30-50 quid from memory

AndyBoBandy · 07-09-2022 10:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119582946#Comment_119582946

I didnt bother....

Replaced rear tyres at 30,000km, and all 4 at 58,000km

I didn't (and don't) fancy ever putting anything other than brand new tyres on the back of a RWD car.. but that's just me.

As for cost for rotating. buy jack pucks, a low profile jack, and a torque wrench and do it yourself....

LeeroyJ. · 07-09-2022 10:16AM

Question about the phone key and walk away lock/unlock. I currently have both my and my wife's phone setup as phone key and walk away lock enabled.

I noticed yesterday that our phones are constantly connecting to the car (non-stop connected notifications) and I was able to open the car door with both phone inside the house. Unfortunately, my driveway is basically about 2 meter max from our Bedroom and living room. If I understand the feature correctly, it's probably best for us to disable phone key and just use the key cards to avoid the car staying unlocked in the driveway all night? I couldnt find an option to disable the auto unlock and disabling Bluetooth isnt an option (smartwatches etc). Appreciate the help!

Gumbo · 07-09-2022 10:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119582138#Comment_119582138

Your signing up to buy at the purchase price displayed. They then remove the grant.

If the grant is changed you need to make up the balance. If the grant drops to €3k then you need to make up the €2k.

Basically the final price is subject to whatever the grant is at the time of registration or whatever the rules say about the time of ordering.

ADSLUSER · 07-09-2022 10:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119583115#Comment_119583115

This can be problematic if your car is parked very near your house. Another alternative which may be better than using your Tesla card is to purchase the Tesla Key Fob https://shop.tesla.com/en_ie/product/model-3_y-key-fob This provides passive locking and unlocking when you're within 1 meter of your car.

Kramer · 07-09-2022 03:14PM

Anyway...........had a 2020 M3. Took it as far as Gibraltar.

Have a 2022 M3 with front radar/AP. Took that through Europe & as far north as Trondheim.

Collected a 2022 M3 last night sans radar, so "Tesla Vision".

Autopilot is now unusable in the dark. It enforces auto high beams once activated & this can't be overridden.

Every artic on the M7 will scorch the eyeballs out of you as the front facing camera(s) can't see their headlights across the central divider & consequently, doesn't dim.

This can't be overridden.

Pulling the stalk does nothing.

We all know just how bad the Tesla's auto dimming is.

Even driving into oncoming traffic is terrible with the car failing to dip the lights in 50% of cases, usually until the other cars light up their main beams. If it was a Garda coming against you, you'd be done for dazzling oncoming drivers.

It is a disaster & will 1000000% be "recalled" or pulled.

I'd advise anyone with a radar equipped car to forgo any updates until this is resolved.

innrain · 07-09-2022 03:36PM

Disappointing alright. I was reading last night it is spreading to all cars even those with radar.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/945/2022-24-6-is-updating-vehicles-to-tesla-vision-although-you-may-have-missed-it

LE I'm on 2022.20.8 just one iteration below the removal

mc2022B2TF · 07-09-2022 03:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585050#Comment_119585050

very interesting - answers my question from the other day - radar will not be used if u update even if your car has it.

Couldn't see them developing 2 sets of autopilot )one with radar and one without).

The autobeam issue is retarded like. I want to be able to determine whether or not i use autobeam on AP.

AndyBoBandy · 07-09-2022 03:59PM

I utterly despise the auto high beams....

Turned them off the night we collected the car, and tried them once again for about 30 seconds a few months later... useless... Sure the lights in my car always creep up anyway over time meaning I always get flashed!!

If AutoPilot requires them now at night, I guess that's the end of AutoPilot.... or else what, every time you see car lights coming towards you, instead of simply knocking off the high beams manually, you'll need to knock off AutoPilot 1st, and then the high beams!! (as that process will still be quicker than auto high beams).

The Bastár∂s are clever too, as the last update put that sh1tty alarm glitch into the car, so everyone will be eager to get the update that fixes that.... but effectively disables your cars radar and ruins your AutoPilot...

Might as well strip out all the radar components to save weight!!

Mike2006 · 07-09-2022 04:31PM

Is there an option to select ‘adaptive cruise control’ and not autopilot or is it all the one?

Mike

AndyBoBandy · 07-09-2022 04:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585338#Comment_119585338

It's all the one.. and comes as standard on all Model 3/Y cars (AutoPilot & AutoSteer)

1 click down = AutoPilot = Adaptive Cruise Control

2 clicks down = Autosteer = Adaptive Cruise Control + Auto Steer

1 click up = turns off all AutoPilot/AutoSteer functions

If on the motorway and using AutoSteer (in a non FSD/EAP car), when you indicate it will turn off the AutoSteer, but leave on AutoPilot... then after you've changed lane, 2 clicks down will re-engage AutoSteer.

Kramer · 07-09-2022 05:00PM

every time you see car lights coming towards you, instead of simply knocking off the high beams manually, you'll need to knock off AutoPilot 1st

That's the only solution. The good thing is knocking off AP immediately dips the main beams but if you've the speed set to anything other than the limit, i.e. you set cruise at 123km/h, disabling cruise will change the speed down. Re-enabling it will make the car speed up again.

Most entertaining on a 2 hour motorway drive in the dark. The bing bong of AP going on & off is weirdly calming while one goes nuts wondering how the biggest car company in the world, with the best tech brains in the world, with the smartest CEO in the world, can make such a balls of something like this.

I disabled autosteer & it'll maintain speed then but that's ridiculous in a brand new car, given the identical car I drove up in, works (relatively) perfectly.

They'll fix it, no doubt, in a ubiquitous software update, because they'll get so much pushback on this, they'll have no choice.

If not, the authorities will definitely intervene as blinding oncoming traffic at night, heading into the winter, won't fly for too long.

I guess they can add a * under AP & add " * autopilot is not to be used in the dark".

Simple solution - disable the enforced auto highbeam (& probably wipers). That may not be prudent though if the cameras can't see.

mc2022B2TF · 07-09-2022 05:11PM

So you can't even have cruise control without autobeam and wipers anymore? Is this what I am hearing? If so then I cannot believe it. No cruise control at nighttime at all let alone autosteer?!?!

I mean like the autopilot was a massive selling point to me. I found it slick compared to other cars. Now I can't even use it.

What a joke.

innrain · 07-09-2022 11:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585549#Comment_119585549

The cruise will still be active the auto steer function would struggle. Would you trust it though.

splashthecash · 08-09-2022 09:54AM

What size battery does the Model 3 Standard Range come with, i've read 50 Kwh but it seems small...

I'm trying to work out cost for charging at home given all the noise around rate increases

slave1 · 08-09-2022 09:56AM

I assume you mean a new car, it's now called the Model RWD and the battery size is 60kWh with around 57.5kWh usable. Previous SR models did come with much smaller battery alright and 50kWh does ring a bell

ELM327 · 08-09-2022 10:07AM

There have been at least 4 different variants at this point. The original SR+ came with a sub 50kWh battery, I think mid 40s usable. The first LFP battery was 50kWh. Then there was a 55kWh LFP, and the current ones come with 60kWh lfp. It's hard to keep up if you don't follow someone like Bjorn on youtube as Tesla never announce these changes. I think it's now 60kWh LFP for the SR, 82kWh Panasonic non LFP for the LR and P? I havent been tracking the LR and P models because I thought I'd never own a 3.

mc2022B2TF · 08-09-2022 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119587763#Comment_119587763

I did some research on it and I guess I wont know for sure until after i pick up the car.

However it seems that any car using Tesla Vision Autopilot has a serious issue in that as soon as you engage autopilot it automatically turns on the "auto high beam" function. This in itself is not a problem but the fact that you cannot manually disengage auto high beam without disengaging autopilot is a massive issue. The reason being is that the auto high beam function is absolute trash at night and is dangerous for you an oncoming drivers - just take a look at this video to see why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi0kmshoVDk

I really really hope this is not the case and there is a way to avoid this. Otherwise in a car costing anywhere from 53k to over 100k any sort of cruise control/autopilot will be rendered unusable in the dark, unless you want to put your own safety and the safety of other drivers at risk by using the auto high beam function.

I do a lot of motorway driving and bought the car with adaptive cruise control/lane assist as an absolute requirement.

Anyway lets wait and see.

ELM327 · 08-09-2022 10:19AM

Currently in my X you can enable adaptive cruise only - and not enable AP. If thats the case (auto high beams required) it seems like I'll never use the AP in the 3 at night

mc2022B2TF · 08-09-2022 11:05AM

Being doing more reading on it and basically forget about using autosteer at night in a model 3 unless you want to be driving dangerously/illegally by blinding oncoming traffic or those in front of you.

I really cannot believe how badly this has been developed/designed by Tesla (i'm not the only one!) - so bad in fact that their autosteer (and maybe any sort of adaptive cruise) cannot be used at night.

Once i experience it myself i will be making a serious complaint to Tesla having being sold an absolute pup.

I would be interested to see what others experience on here and if there is any way at all to find a solution, apart from waiting for a software upgrade. However, this seems maybe not possible as Tesla Vision seems to rely on high beams to be able to see adequately at night. Seems like a total cluster-you know what.

Gile_na_gile · 08-09-2022 11:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588479#Comment_119588479

49kWh usable according to this for 2018-20 models with total NCA battery at 53kWh: https://insideevs.com/news/503311/2021-tesla-model3-srp-charging/

Amazing what they got from that battery pack, but a little on the low side these days, especially given the big jump from that to present spec.

08-09-2022 01:03PM

Not sure if it was Bjørn's video you linked mc2022.* about the forced auto high beam, but if it was that one it was linked here earlier, and in my opinion it's guaranteed that a recall will be issued on this. The competition or some other irate customers would not let this pass.

I suspect something will be done. Here's hoping "something" will be the full matrix headlamp functionality on 2021+ cars as they would be a good solution as far as the vision visibility is concerned.

mc2022B2TF · 08-09-2022 01:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119589352#Comment_119589352

yeah it was Bjorns video - it's out and out crazy stuff. "At Tesla our number one focus is on safety" - blah blah getting rid of radar is purely cost saving. I'm just surprised that the uproar hasn't been bigger - i guess coming into winter months (less daylight) coupled with those that have radar and upgrade their software and realise that it's gone, the kickback will be so big it just simply cannot be ignored. Worrying thing is that Tesla have been aware of this for almost a year now and have not provided a solution.

ADSLUSER · 08-09-2022 01:51PM

Don’t forget to throw in Phantom braking!!

mc2022B2TF · 08-09-2022 01:56PM

imagine with all the supposed tech etc. and we cant even use cruise control on our new M3 at night - and people have the cheek to slag other manufacturers off. Who would have thought that a 12 year old VW's adaptive cruise control would be better than Tesla's 2022 version

Kramer · 08-09-2022 02:10PM

First time I'll decline an update.

It'll soon be dark for the next six months in Norway where Teslas are ubitiquous. Six months of no AP, or tens of thousands of dazzled drivers & subsequent road rage incidents, or worse.

Those are the only two choices with Tesla Vision.

mc2022B2TF · 08-09-2022 02:15PM

Imagine all the people that install that update and don't realise the massive impact it has.

Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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