Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Popped back into this thread to catch up and I see old arguments being rehashed under a different guise.. I'd suggest that some here shouldn't even entertain nonsense semantic arguments around mandates and coercion.

About two weeks ago I posted about the ICCL statement disagreeing with coercive methods being used against the Irish population to take Covid injections, mainly in the form of the "vaccine passport".

No-one disagreed.

So put this one to bed once and for all.

Irish people were coerced into taking a Covid injection.

If someone wants to argue otherwise, and claim they're more qualified than the Irish Council Of Civil Liberties on this, then let them put their medals on the table. But they won't.

At this stage there's more sense being talked in the actual coronavirus forum than on this thread which, to me, seems dominated by a small few, determined to obfuscate at every given opportunity.

Always the victim, but never of your own views.

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. The virus mutates, the vaccines will evolve, who knows what the situation will be in the future, and what the respective restrictions will be.

Anti-vaxxers are constantly changing their angle of attack. Prior to the pandemic they fixated on isolated cases, during the pandemic they fixated on efficacy, now their main attack is the "long term" safety. In several years they'll have to find another new angle or possibly revert back to an old one. Social media platforms will have to adapt to that.

One thing that is obvious, people are getting more and more sick of disinfo and lies masquerading as "debate".

@[Deleted User] @hometruths @moonage @patnor1011 @WealthyB

why you guys hanging about here if the COVID forum is now the place to be for truth seekers?

Just tell them you're ahead of the curve, I'm sure they'll be happy to have you back

that's the spirit!

And yet, from England and Wales:

• The year-to-date (January to July) Age-standardised mortality rates in 2022 was significantly lower than most years since our data time series began in 2001 (except for 2019 in England, and 2014 and 2019 in Wales) in both England (944.3 deaths per 100,000 people) and Wales (1,019.3 deaths per 100,000 people).

So basically, when you adjust for demographic changes over times, and exclude 2020 -> 2022 has one of the lowest excess deaths of the century.

I linked a study above showing:

The risk of dementia was elevated in those aged over 65 for up to two years following covid-19, with 4.5 per cent diagnosed with dementia in the two years after covid-19, compared with 3.3 per cent in the control group...

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext

And the #1 cause of death in England and Wales:

Dementia & Alzheimers Disease.

As for Alberta:

It’s true that, according to data published by Service Alberta’s Vital Statistics database, there were 3,362 deaths in Alberta in 2021 in which “other ill-defined and unknown causes” was listed as a cause of death, making it the leading listed cause of death in the province. But the government there has since clarified that some of those deaths were still under investigation and the cause of death would eventually be updated. There’s no evidence to suggest a significant number of deaths have been caused by the Covid-19 vaccines in Canada.

yep, and what's the leading causes? (which are higher than normal, and being attributed to lack of care during lockdowns)