Texas School shooting 19 children and 2 adults murdered

I don't think anyone said it was illegal.

The point is that it is feeding into and encouraging the US culture that is causing a lot of shooting sprees. That is what the gun companies want. If their goods are worshipped they sell more. If it causes more kids to get shot then they sell more when people worry the guns will get taken away.

The three people Kyle Rittenhouse shot were all actively trying to assault him. Clear case of self-defence.

You are right about most people wouldn't shoot someone smashing a store window but as Manic Moran has pointed out, there are circumstances where it's perfectly legal to do so.

I dont think you could get away with this in Ireland. I can't imagine a shopkeeper could say knife someone in the back (given probably in Ireland a shopkeeper would not have access to a firearm) who was wrecking their store and not face some serious legal or civil penalties. Im against people wrecking stores, or private property - that should result in jail time not other private citizens killing them. The texas law must be a wet dream for vigilante psychopaths.

I think the Kyle Rittenhouse case is totally separate as he was defending his life.

But what is the price then of a human being than in America? I guess the value of what they steal or destroy, no matter how small. No one likes scumbags but unless they are physically threatening your life I don't wish death upon them. There is a huge difference in damaging a store you are not in and physically threatening you in your own home.

Alot of people in the West consider Saudi Arabia backward for cutting off the arms of thieves. But they seem downright civilized compared to the those who say thieves should be shot dead.

Sort of reminds me of the scene in dawn of the dead where those in the store are sniping Zombies below from the roof top.

If someone is attacking my car I probably want to kill them but I'm not sure the law should be left in the hands of private citizens that can lead to unintended consequences like mob justice/ lynchings.

I dont think even Americans are totally behind allowing storeowners to kill those trying to kill rioters. i remember they excluded from that American Sniper movie any scenes of Chris Kyle sniping rioters in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina as they thought it would be too controversial even for American audiences.

I've no problem wishing death to certain scumbags. Quite a lot of scumbags really. But that doesn't mean I'm advocating for going around shooting them. The US law doesn't say you can go around shooting them willy nilly, but it does say there are certain circumstances where it's appropriate to do so.

Would I think it's acceptable for a store owner to shoot someone doing some petty shoplifting? No. Would I think it's acceptable for a store owner to shoot looters who are stealing and destroying the business person's livelihood, yep, I probably would. Your sentence about damaging a store you are not in doesn't apply here. You can't shoot looters/arsonists etc. if you aren't there.

I guess because you had a photo of a sniper rifle there I assumed that the store owner would not be in his own store shooting rioters with that sort of weapon, but would be in the locality a distance away band not under physical threat.

If the police are not allowed to shoot rioters with sniper rifles why should private citizens? That is like making private citizens their own Judge Dredd dispensing life or death justice.

True but a justice system based on the victim's opinions would result in a death sentence for car jacking, common assaults , any minor crime the victim has the over the top reaction too. I would feel very bad for the store owners just not bad enough to justify them killing people. The justice system has to be balanced. They burnt down the Lidl in Citywest few years ago during the big snow, society moved on - the workers got new jobs and no one was killed.

Balanced as in I don't think the punishment for theft should be death. Unless you are also advocating death for white collar criminals who steal from pension funds or charity CEOs who rob from their charities then the system you advocate for isn't balanced. It can't be death for poor people that steal, prison sentences for richer people who steal.

There were riots in London a few years ago with a lot of gear stolen. The police, shop owners shot/killed no one but they got a lot of the gear back by successfully getting the rioters to turn each other in because the criminals were so stupid they were bragging to their mates on what they stole.

It says a lot about some American's and the gun worshippers that the only possible options they can understand are stand by doing nothing or immediately start shooting.