General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

Actually it is going to Vote in September apparently but should hopefully pass

https://news.sky.com/story/premier-league-weighs-ban-on-debt-fuelled-club-takeovers-12612619

Fernández is on loan at Preston for the season, strange to involve him.

What would it take to buy out the Glazers?

They would want close to £5B for the biggest club in the World since Chelsea went for £4.25B

Old Trafford needs to be rebuilt or a new stadium built that’s close to another £1B

The squad needs to be rebuilt over a couple of transfer windows that probably another £500m to a £1B

So you are looking at close to £7B from new owners who really has that kind of money to throw away as it would take a generation to make it back if they ever did

Also who’s to say they won’t do the same thing the Glazers have done and starting milking money out of the club when they see how much money the Glazers are getting out of it.

United's transfer spend is consistently in the top 4 so the problem doesn't lie in the amount but how it's spent. Juve for instance must be wetting themselves from their dealings with United.

Very reminiscent of the Hicks/Gillette Liverpool days with money thrown at flavour of the month players with no regards to how they fit. But as long as people could eat their official Man United peanuts on their official Man United mattress nothing else mattered to Woodward.

It was embarrassing what Redknapp was trying to do. You could see the frustration on Gary's face as he had to explain it once again to Jamie.

This is a long term issue at the club. It is not just down to this weekend or last weekend. The Glazers are ruining the club on and off the field. That's before we go back to the attempt of joining a super league boxed off from all competition so they can continue to milk the club without fear of it dropping too far down.

Honestly have no idea if Jamie is just on the wind up or he's just that dense.

Gary is spot on in everything he said. I only wish he had spoken up more previously.

Not sure Jim Ratcliffe does actually. Google has his net worth at 13.2 Billion but obviously that will be made up of assists he owns etc..

I think it would take a bid of ~5B to buy the club. Then the stadium + training ground need investing and so on. The deal would hopefully clear the Glazers debt in the 5B but we are still looking at close to half of Jim's total net worth at around 5-6B in total.

He won't have that just lying around and if he sells off assists to get the funds then he won't be worth anything close to his current value.

The problem we have really is Utd is worth so much money it is such a small pool of potential buyers without selling your soul to Oil states looking to sports wash.

I'd love it to be Jim but can't see it. Maybe if he could get a few more to invest with him but then billionaires don't tend to invest in things without some decent returns.

OK, I was wondering, because Burnley was bought up using a similar model last year as well.

I have to laugh as one of the posters above suggesting Keane is the answer to United'S problems, I'd absolutely love to see that! Be pure box office, and hopefully a fly on the wall documentary crew are involved too, because given his record it would be a complete car crash! They'd definitely be heading down to the championship with Roy at the Helm.

Sky must be wetting themselves though, having himself and Neville on as pundits. Both produce more heat than light, and all they do is rant about The United Way and how it was in their day 25 years ago. Its pure comedy, but it's not analysis and shouldn't be treated as such.

Neville has had a go at management (failed) and is now a (part) owner of a club, so let's see what he can do there, all they've done so far there is throw money from outside the club at it and distorted the transfer market at that level, while Roy..... Look, I won't go into his record less I be treated as some sort of troll.

I'm no fan of Ferguson, particularly his personality and stuff, but to be fair to him his status grows with every year he's retired.

It’s bizarre that they didn’t want Conte.

The Glazers have no problem spending money on players, they just don’t really want to put effort into modernising they club. They’re happy to give each new manager money but the current state of the squad is a mish mash of players previous managers asked for with some players no other top club wanted.

I’d put Conte in the same bracket as Klopp and Guardiola as a manager that players would be interested in playing for regardless of the club - like right now, for a top player, United just isn’t an attractive prospect. Not in the CL and 5 other projects in the league that are much likelier to be successful. Conte would have been a major plus point in convincing players to join imo. He may have been short term and ended up storming out but he would have been an ideal short term manager to improve the squad at least.

If they’re only going to go after yes men, it’s just going to get worse.

I seen somewhere on Twitter that, Haaland only had 8 touches yesterday second lowest of all time and two completeld passes one of those was kick off

Conte wouldn’t have been backed, plain and simple. Certainly not the players he’s wanted and got at Spurs.

When Ronaldo left in 2009, SAF wasn’t backed and had to replace him with Obertan and Michael Owen. Where did the Ronaldo money go? Only down to SAF genius, did United manage to win a few more titles, RVP was a masterstroke.

Mourinho rightly or wrongly wanted Maguire, club said no. Then signed him for £80 million a year later. How does that make any sense?

Moyes wasn’t backed originally and then we signed Fellaini for more than his minimum release clause that same Summer. He wasn’t the answer but he was set upto fail.

The club was more interested in marquee signings for years for social media clicks and PR than actually building a team, hence the reason the mess the club is in now.

Your point on McFred is a good one because we’ve been linked with players in thats position but never materialised, why? Club has failed to act on it. De Jong we’ll miss out on and Rabiot is the alternative ffs.

Oh I agree with the vast majority of your post there. But who did Conte sign at Spurs that Utd wouldn’t have backed him on?

There was quite a bit of push back on Conte at the time, from online fans and pundits, because of his style of play and longevity question marks.

Very generous for McKenna not to be sent off there.

The Glazers are poison, but not for the reasons many I talk to espouse.

If they're honest, the average Utd fan doesn't give a fúck that they take out a dividend. The only reason it's on the radar is because the team is diabolical.

The average Utd fan does not give a fúck that the stadium isn't particularly modern. The only reason that they care is that the team is diabolical.

Even though none of the Glazers' own money goes in, the spend on the team is more than enough to compete and be extremely successful.

The Glazers are poison because they did not care about their investment enough, or were too stupid, to put football experts and professionals in charge of recruitment, operations, etc. A structure was never put in place, because when they arrived, Fergie held it all together with his genius. But no structure was there when his omnipotence disappeared.

The irony is if the Glazers had had the foresight to put a structure in place for when Fergie left, they could probably get away with taking more money out of the club, and very few fans would give a toss. Because they'd probably be successful on the pitch.

The average fan believes this will be solved by spending. "If they'd spend more, we could compete". FFS, Gary Neville all but said Newcastle have ideal owners last night.

It won't. It's about structural change. It's nothing to do with spending money on players. That will only help once the place is gutted and started again.