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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,473 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Why do you think they did it? They have already used violence, intimidation, insurrection and even murder, GQP 2022.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,399 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    They retain their security clearance but a) they don't need to have access to this stuff, which is a requirement to access it and b) they're certainly not entitled to keep it at their country club in Florida.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    So ABC news has just said that Biden had removed Trumps security clearance when he took office.

    This is huge also that he had not right to ANY of the documents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭mikewest




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The statutes behind the Warrant

    § 2071:

    (a)Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

    § 793:

    (a)Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or

    (b)Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or

    (c)Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

    (d)Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

    (e)Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

    (f)Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

    (g)If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.

    (h)

    (1)Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.

    (2)The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.

    (3)The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to—

    (A)property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;

    (B)any seizure or disposition of such property; and

    (C)any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,

    if not inconsistent with this subsection.

    (4)Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.

    § 1519:

    Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ”ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS ASK”????? They’ve been asking since April

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To an extent they can but only as a curtoisy and to a certain level and if they are on a Presidential mission.

    I remember at the time he lost the election former cia and security agency personnel said trump shouldn't get any.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    apparently the FBI were not given full access to MAL, golf club room, private guest suites / staff areas were not allowed to be searched



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Brietbart roasted for trying to bury the lede about Trump being caught violating the Espionage Act




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Beau nails Trump to the wall here:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭francois




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    They're all very fcuked over if those same Pentagon personnel were attached to the missing SCI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Stochastic Terrorism. They doxxed the agents whose names are protected in other copies of the warrant.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Shiffer, the MAGA Maniac, was a US Navy Attack Submarine officer. He served on USS Columbia, a Los Angeles Class. Columbia is Nuclear Powered but is not a nuclear launch platform (SSBN).


    I'm gonna run out of free links really fast if I can't stop living in such an unprecedented month in history for **** sake



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Anyone who votes Republican after this should be forced to get a mental health examination.

    And before any of the bleeding heart losers come at me, save your breath because if you're defending anything this rotten party does then I personally don't give a rats.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Their trolls are going to get so tired of having everything come back to nuclear secrets:

    "Tax on business is a tax on all Americans" -> Leaking nuclear secrets is a tax on all Americans

    "Biden is making it harder to compete against China" -> Leaking nuclear secrets makes it harder to compete against China

    "Biden's woke military is weakening our national security" -> leaking nuclear secrets weakens our national security.

    "The IRS is being weaponized" -> Saudi Arabia is being weaponized

    "What about Hunter Biden" -> There was no SCI on Hunter's laptop. What about $2 Billion?

    etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    what a night, 4 sets of top secret documents among more stuff and Nuclear secrets at that

    The Orange menace is hopefully finished and will be barred from ever holding office again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    The Save America "patriots" have gone very quiet. Guess it's not a great look when your leader is a traitor.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Interesting piece of trivia I know: the Los Angeles class sun can be used as a nuclear launch platform for tactical nukes loaded on cruise missiles.

    During the invasion of Afghanistan they launched conventional cruise missiles many times.

    This guy was clearly a nut case, but it’s not unusual for bubble heads to be a bit nuts.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    And to think, the Jan 6th committee findings is still to come



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,234 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If the Jan 6th hearings/findings don't end with some sort of decisive blow to the Trump movement, then they will have been for nought. They can say that the hearings will show the Trump movement for what it is, but we already know what it is. It has to go beyond showing how much of a sleazy con man Trump is and into the realm of hard evidence to prosecute him successfully on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,234 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Has QAnon come out with a claim yet that the documents Trump was holding on to were dossiers detailing locations and membership of paedophilic orgies held by the Democrats? Just to stay true to form?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    Kinda miss Outlaw Pete tbh



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