Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

pjohnson · 11-08-2022 07:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460552#Comment_119460552

At least you put quotes around the supposed mom yourself anyway.

snowcat · 11-08-2022 08:26PM

This type of propaganding does not advance your case as a smart person. You think you are smarter than a vaccine sceptic and can post images from twitter and facebook that have been redacted and edited. I could edit that picture and show the picture of a recently vaxxed baby that is seriously sick and the mother regretting the vaccine.

kernkraft500 · 11-08-2022 08:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460330#Comment_119460330

your blood can't be pure if you're full of bullshit

snowcat · 11-08-2022 09:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460806#Comment_119460806

In fairness he is not a million miles wrong. If there is a new vaccine (there will be) who are they going to benchmark it against? The unvaxxed or the ones who got the shite vaccine.

kernkraft500 · 11-08-2022 09:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461015#Comment_119461015

like they always have ... people who have received the new vaccine and who haven't... benchmarking with caveats makes zero sense

Fighting Tao · 11-08-2022 10:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461053#Comment_119461053

But with caveats makes the safe covid vaccine sound really really scary!

kernkraft500 · 11-08-2022 10:21PM

considering we're at a point where the majority of the population has had some sort an immune response to at least 1 variant of Covid, through either vaccine or infection (unless you've been sitting isolated the last 2 years) ... the idea of a "pureblood" is a complete misnomer, and scientifically incorrect to even try to differentiate and distinguish a benchmark against.

11-08-2022 10:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460444#Comment_119460444

There's no such thing as "EPVs".

And this has nothing to do with vaccine safety.

11-08-2022 10:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461185#Comment_119461185

Also it's a term from Harry Potter.

Which is appropriate for the fantasy world anti-vaxxers seem to live in.

We're also getting that same silly euphemism of "needlecraft".

The fact that many of them seem to repeatedly use it makes me thing it's something on the the Twitter grifters must use a lot.

kernkraft500 · 11-08-2022 11:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461276#Comment_119461276

only the un-vaccinated are allowed to play quidditch, no half or mud bloods

Dohnjoe · 11-08-2022 11:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460552#Comment_119460552

You have completely missed the point

Internet quacks and anti-science contrarians have been fearmongering about vaccines since the year dot, long before you started your personal crusade on this forum, and unfortunately it does have ramifications.

Certain individuals are fixated on and act hysterical over a handful of deaths/injuries from vaccines, they are unconcerned about the millions who have died to preventable infectious diseases, they ignore the millions of lives that vaccines have saved. This selective "concern" is of course irrational and completely contradictory. Unfortunately the disinfo and "just concerned" doubt-mongering these individuals produce does get out there, it spreads on social media, it's reported that a dozen people produce up to 65% of anti-vax propaganda. It can and does influence certain people to avoid medical treatment which can have serious effects. Ironically and very grimly, anti-vax propaganda is probably responsible for more deaths than vaccines. Far more.

Sorry to interrupt this, please go on "asking questions" for your "concerns" about vaccine safety.

moonage · 11-08-2022 11:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461185#Comment_119461185

The differentiation is between the needlecrafted and the unneedlecrafted with the latter acting as a sort of control group.

This control group is an inconvenience for the rabid pro-vaxxers and for the governments who tried to reduce this control group as much as possible by doing their best to get everyone jabberwockied.

kernkraft500 · 11-08-2022 11:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461472#Comment_119461472

even if you have someone in the control who declares themselves as unvaccinated, if in Ireland or UK, they have over 99% possibility of having some sort of trace amount of COVID antibodies in their system from either vaccination or infection.... making that control group null and void...

you are talking crap.

Dohnjoe · 12-08-2022 12:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461472#Comment_119461472

This is just nonsense, it doesn't even make sense. Then again you're openly a Holocaust denier.

If I was posting on something and I noticed the people agreeing with me consistently had these kind of extreme beliefs, or were almost completely incoherent, I would instantly start to question a) my own sanity and b) the veracity of my opinions

Likewise if I thought I knew more than the world's experts and scientists, or that I had "spotted something" they haven't.

These are giant red flags, yet we see them day in day out on this thread.

12-08-2022 04:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461472#Comment_119461472

But why are you using this silly euphemism of "needlecraft"?

It's making you and your fellow conspiracy theorists look a bit ridiculous.

hometruths · 12-08-2022 08:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461435#Comment_119461435

Whatever the strength of your argument, some screen grab from facebook does not show @that all this anti-vax BS can and does have an impact."

And you have completely missed my point I have been making on here repeatedly.

Whooping cough is a vaccine preventable disease. Covid is currently not.

All this pretending that covid is vaccine preventable, and that the vaccine is working amazingly well as expected, and that coercion never happened, and that there was no shift in policy from individual choice towards mandatory vaccination, and the denial of natural immunity etc etc is damaging trust in all vaccines.

The way to combat damage done by internet quacks and anti-science is contrarians is with honesty and transparency, not revisionism. The Emperor's New Clothes approach to the covid vaccines is just encouraging them.

12-08-2022 08:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461914#Comment_119461914

The way to combat damage done by internet quacks and anti-science is contrarians is with honesty and transparency, not revisionism. The Emperor's New Clothes approach to the covid vaccines is just encouraging them.

But you've been constantly denying that any such anti-science quacks and anti-science contrarians have made any appearance on this thread.

You've constantly ignored false claims when and because they are anti-vaxx.

When you're asked you opinion on these obvious lies, you waffle, dodge or avoid for the most part. Or you outwardly agree, like with the false claims that opened this thread.

Again man, look at who are the only ones who are supporting you on this thread.

Look at who is taking your arguments as evidence for their conspiracies.

Look at where this thread is.

You might have a point if you were actually posting this in a medical forum (and hadn't shown yourself to be a complete anti-vaxxer.)

But you don't post there.

We all know why even if you won't ever be honest enough to admit it.

hometruths · 12-08-2022 09:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461958#Comment_119461958

None of this is a counter argument to anything I have said. It's just yet another attempt to discredit and deflect and derail discussion.

You think that if I don't actively disagree with another poster on another totally separate point, that somehow it means the point I am making is wrong? It's madness.

Look at where this thread is.

You might have a point if you were actually posting this in a medical forum (and hadn't shown yourself to be a complete anti-vaxxer.)

But you don't post there.

We all know why even if you won't ever be honest enough to admit it.

I have addressed this point numerous times. If I said mandatory vaccination is coercion in the covid forum, and somebody like you objected to that comment I would be banned for being an anti-vaxxer. It doesn't matter if what I say is true or not, I would still be banned. Anybody who is considered to be anti covid vaccine is not welcome to post in the thread.

I think it is a silly policy for a discussion forum but those are the rules of the thread and I must respect them if I wish to post in the thread. It is demonstrably false that mandatory vaccination is not coercion, and that natural immunity is inferior to being vaccinated, and that the vaccines were approved to reduce the severity of infections, rather than to prevent infections etc etc, so I have no wish to post in the thread.

You know this as well as I do.

Fighting Tao · 12-08-2022 09:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462130#Comment_119462130

What does mandatory vaccine have to do with safety? Maybe you’d be banned for persistently posting off topic on the covid forums.

hometruths · 12-08-2022 09:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462140#Comment_119462140

It's a vaccine megathread, so mandatory vaccination would be very much on topic there, as here.

Claiming mandatory vaccination is not coercion is just one of many examples of how people are willing to either ignore reality or attempt to redefine reality when it comes to the covid vaccines. Hence my Emperor's New Clothes comments.

Ignoring reality in the context of such a newly developed vaccine is very much a safety issue.

12-08-2022 09:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462130#Comment_119462130

No, it's a counter to your argument that the best way to deal with the misinformation is to ignore it, pretend it doesn't happen, support the people who spread, coddle them and agree with them.

It's also a counter to your false claim that you're concerned about trust in the vaccines or in truth in general.

And yes, that's why you post there, only without the spin you're putting on it. You are an anti-vaxxer. Your tactics are straight out of anti-vaxxers playbooks. It's got nothing to do about them disallowing criticism of the vaccines.

So why do you believe the mods are doing this?

You've been asked many many times and you refuse to answer.

This is because you believe, like your fellow conspiracy theorists that the mods are part of a conspiracy to silence you.

12-08-2022 09:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462194#Comment_119462194

No, it's a thread about vaccine safety. Read the title.

Conspiracy theorists have just dragged the topic off and on topic at the whims of their twitter feeds and to avoid the fact they've not actually shown any safety issues that they've uncovered.

Nor have they explained a rational, coherent conspiracy.

Igotadose · 12-08-2022 09:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462248#Comment_119462248

You might get 'hairsplitted' because your reply to Phish.../Home.... missed his 'here and there' equivocation. I don't think Phish.../Home... said 'this is a vaccine megathread.' It isn't - I don't follow that thread, is Phish.../Home... banned there?

And, because of the hairsplitting, covid vaccines are dangerous/unsafe/... </s>

12-08-2022 10:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462248#Comment_119462248

All the paranoid "I don't want to live in fear but Bill Gates and Soros are out to get me" cranks that have been banned from normal discussion elsewhere on boards have ended up here because their sh1t isn't tolerated anywhere else. Now they're trying to take over the safety thread and turn int into a megathread because, after 350 pages, they haven't really been able to point out that they're unsafe. Go figure.

hometruths · 12-08-2022 10:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462361#Comment_119462361

cranks that have been banned from normal discussion elsewhere on boards have ended up here because their sh1t isn't tolerated anywhere else

Kind of ironic that you are posting this in a thread you are banned from.

12-08-2022 10:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462288#Comment_119462288

Sorry, you seem to have hit a glitch there and have typed out random nonsense.

12-08-2022 10:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462379#Comment_119462379

Wasn't aware I'd been banned, had to go back and check.

I'll see myself out, so.

Dohnjoe · 12-08-2022 10:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462130#Comment_119462130

For the 100th time you aren't in a conspiracy forum seeking genuine information or discussion about medical treatment. However there's absolutely nothing stopping you from endlessly carrying out this act, so it continues.

It's nothing, I've seen 9/11 truthers pull this pretence for years here. All the time maintaining their "innocence".

hometruths · 12-08-2022 10:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462481#Comment_119462481

I'm not maintaining my "innocence" about anything, nor pulling a pretence, nor claiming to be confused.

I'm stating unambiguously that there is a dangerous and relentless revisionism that surrounds all things covid vaccine. That's what I am seeking discussion about.

In reply I get people saying things like mandatory vaccination is not coercion and insufficient data is in fact extremely comprehensive data.

Which rather proves my point.

12-08-2022 10:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462535#Comment_119462535

But if that's what you were actually doing, why post here?

We understand that you believe that there's a conspiracy preventing you from posting on other forums and you don't wish to talk about that conspiracy.

But why then post here where the majority of people who are going to be skeptical of the vaccines are skeptical because they believe it's a giant global conspiracy?

What answers or discussion were you expecting to get from these folks?

If everything was as you say, and no one was allowed to disagree with your posts, then all you'd have is folks like the OP and Buzzer etc posting conspiracy claims from sites like natural news that you have said you actively ignore because they're so obviously silly.

Again, your story doesn't add up and it's not going to fool anyone. I don't think even other conspiracy theorists believe you're not an anti-vaxxer.

Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

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