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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭scuba8


    It wood appear, from the journalist, that a source has only recently produced corroborating photos of the said papers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,679 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The best people, the very best!

    Russian hoax, never happened, no collusion and yet...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,777 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    On the anniversary of Nixon resigning due to watergate it’s nice to see that stupid watergate is still delivering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Mar-A-Lago raided by the FBI.

    Before any loo-lah starts with the ‘uhhh CNN durrr’, Trump himself has confirmed it to them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,898 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Bastards after me boards.ie login details.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,898 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/08/us/trump-fbi-raid nytimes article on the raid.

    things are certainly starting to step up will be interesting to get an idea if which of the investigations have triggered this raid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    You love to see it!

    Gonna be one hell of a week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Well we have to guess if Lisa Smith would have been referred to as a suicide bomber in that scenario and suicide bombers are also frequently linked with a certain skin tone in the minds of a lot of people regardless of whether or not they follow the Muslim faith.


    It was either a sectarian comment or a racist comment and we can't know for sure which. Maybe even both. The two have a tendency to blur especially given the stupidity of anyone who makes either type of comment. It is splitting hairs as to which someone gets labelled.


    For instance not so long ago Hindus were attacked on a train due to being mistaken for Muslims. Obviously the attacker was aiming for a sectarian attack but assumed religion based on race so they were attacked due to their race.



  • Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FBI pays visit to Trump Florida residence

    to execute search warrant.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62472908



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,114 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    NYT article:

    ---

    Former President Donald Trump said Monday that the FBI had searched his Palm Beach, Florida, home and had broken open a safe — an account signaling a dramatic escalation in the various investigations into the final stages of his presidency.

    The search, according to multiple people familiar with the investigation, appeared to be focused on material that Trump had brought with him to Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence, when he left the White House. Those boxes contained many pages of classified documents, according to a person familiar with their contents.

    Trump delayed returning 15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives for many months, only doing so when there became a threat of action being taken to retrieve them.

    The FBI would have needed to convince a judge that it had probable cause that a crime had been committed to get a search warrant, and proceeding with a search on a former president’s home would almost surely have required signoff from top officials at the bureau and the Justice Department.

    A spokesperson for the FBI declined to comment, and Justice Department officials did not initially respond to requests for comment.

    Trump was in the New York area at the time of the raid.

    Trump, who campaigned for president in 2016 criticizing Hillary Rodham Clinton’s practice of maintaining a private email server for government-related messages while she was secretary of state, was known throughout his term to rip up official material that was intended to be held for presidential archives. One person familiar with his habits said that included classified material that was shredded in his bedroom and elsewhere.

    “After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate,” Trump said, maintaining it was an effort to stop him from running for president in 2024. “Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries.

    “They even broke into my safe!” he wrote. “What is the difference between this and Watergate, where operatives broke into the Democrat National Committee? Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States.”

    Trump did not share any details about what the FBI agents said they were searching for.

    The search took place Monday morning, a person familiar with it said, although Trump claimed agents were still there many hours later.

    The search was at least in part for whether any records remained at the club, the person familiar with the search said.

    Aides to President Joe Biden said they were stunned by the development and had learned of it from Twitter.

    The reported search came at a time when the Justice Department has also been stepping up questioning of former Trump aides who had been witnesses to discussion and planning in the White House of Trump’s efforts to remain in office after his loss in the 2020 election.

    Trump has been the focus of questions asked by federal prosecutors in connection with a scheme to send “fake” electors to Congress for the certification of the Electoral College.

    Current FBI Director Christopher Wray was appointed by Trump.

    The law governing the preservation of White House materials, the Presidential Records Act, lacks teeth, but criminal statutes can come into play, especially in the case of classified material.

    Criminal codes, which carry jail time, prohibit anyone who “willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States” and anyone who “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys” government documents.

    Samuel Berger, a national security adviser to President Bill Clinton, pleaded guilty in 2015 to a misdemeanor charge for removing classified material from a government archive. In 2007, Donald Keyser, an Asia expert and former senior State Department official, was sentenced to prison after he confessed to keeping more than 3,000 sensitive documents — ranging from classified to top secret — in his basement.

    In 1999, the CIA announced it had suspended the security clearance of its former director, John Deutch, after concluding that he had improperly handled national secrets on a desktop computer at his home.

    In January, the archives retrieved 15 boxes that Trump had taken with him to Mar-a-Lago from the White House residence when his term ended. The boxes included material subject to the Presidential Records Act, which requires that all documents and records pertaining to official business be turned over to the archives.

    The items in the boxes included documents, mementos, gifts and letters. The archives did not describe the classified material it found other than to say that it was “classified national security information.”

    Because the National Archives “identified classified information in the boxes,” the agency “has been in communication with the Department of Justice,” David Ferriero, the national archivist, told Congress at the time.

    Federal prosecutors subsequently began a grand jury investigation, according to two people briefed on the matter. Prosecutors issued a subpoena earlier this year to the archives to obtain the boxes of classified documents, according to the two people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

    Authorities also made interview requests to people who worked in the White House in the final days of Trump’s presidency, according to one of the people. This article originally appeared in The New York Times

    ---



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,898 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I have to say, I was and am sure that Trump should be prosecuted fairly, regardless of the push back or consequences.

    That said, saying this kind of reaction is a little unsettling...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭francois


    What a great thing to wake up to. Don't **** with the archivists!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,898 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Wait a second!

    I thought defunding law enforcement was a democrat idea and bad policy?


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,777 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    And on top of the goings on in Florida trump was on a conference call which included Sarah palin and trump praised her time as Vice President. Facts and reality mean noting to this lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Victim blaming, eh? She shouldn't dress that way if she doesn't want the attention. That sounds familiar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,114 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    It's speculative as to why the FBI raided TFG's pleasure palace. It might be due to the missing classified materials. It could be something completely different, too. Maybe part of a strategy for the DoJ to put the squeeze on TFG prior to an indictment for ...something...


    I agree it's likely this has something to do with the documents, but that's not guaranteed. Nor will we see the warrant anytime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,898 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Person, woman, man, camera, TV. Eh?

    Posting this for prosperity....


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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Weren’t they all going mad over Cracker Barrel introducing a vegetarian sausage last week?

    The collective fury must be off the scale on this one.

    Buckle up!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    The only thing funnier that the FBI raiding Trump's Palace of Tackiness (and that is very, very funny indeed) is the absolute meltdown that his cult are having over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,114 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Re: The FBI Raid


    1. Fake News
    2. It didn't happen
    3. They were just tourists
    4. O.K. they were there, but they were looking for sneaky illegals working in the laundry room
    5. TFG had personally led them on a tour the night before, they innocently took pictures for their friends


    <please add. Playing GQP news is such fun!>



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Are you seriously comparing a KKK Member wearing a white hood to a Muslim woman wearing a headscarf???

    That's just beyond pathetic.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I must say news like this normally comes out on a Friday.

    Good to see it happen on a monday.


    The party of “F**k your feelings” sure are an emotional bunch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Not at all the conversation if you bothered to read was about suicide bombers. Ofc you wont read past garb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Just reading here about the level of evidence likely required to have a judge sign off on a warrant against a former president.


    Let's hope this crooked piece of shit is finally going to get what he deserves.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    You were the one that suggested that by wearing the typical Muslim headscarf she invited the Suicide bomber comparison and when called out on that you then said "Should a KKK person get a free pass because they are wearing a white hood?"

    So I'm fully up to speed on where the conversation is at and yes , it's still pathetic to try and make that comparison.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    But back to the topic of the thread.

    Mar-a-Lago raided , although the Secret Service knew they were coming as they had to be informed before the FBI arrived onsite for security reasons despite Trump claiming it was a big surprise.

    For them to get a judge to approve a warrant to go into the home of a former President they would have had to have shown absolutely massive amounts of evidence of a suspected Crime.

    This is real trouble for Trump.



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