Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

They were very good at preventing symptomatic infection versus the strains they were tested against.

jaysus.. you're still clinging to that argument....

yeah, if you've been living under a rock the last 2 years.....

The vaccines are effective and have worked against Omicron. Omicron is highly infectious and we have no restrictions in place v Covid so this translates into breakthrough infections. I've no idea what you are on about with strawman arguments such as 'the unvaxxed causing the misery'. The unvaccinated, relative to age and risk, are disproportionately represented in hospitalisations and cases of severe covid and you have failed to provide any evidence to counter this established fact other than strawman arguments.

I referenced Hong Kong for the impact of Omicron on an unvaxxed vulnerable demographic in causing severe covid cases.

This is re-affirmed by Qatar study below.

Your claims are false and baseless - unsupported by evidence.

1. mRNA booster vaccines for Covid-19 were highly effective against delta infection but less effective against omicron infection.

2. mRNA booster vaccines demonstrated strong protection against Covid-19 related hospitalization and death due to both variants.

Who is in hospital and with what? And what is 'just a few'? Get specific. With regard to the infectiousness of Omicron, number of cases, effectiveness of the vaccines, and population of Ireland.

You are the one insinuating something is going on yet seem utterly incapable of providing any data to support your position or counter the actual evidence provided which completely undermines your earlier claims.

But wait... earlier you were saying Omicron saved us and it was a mild virus.

So how can the health system be borderline overrun with Covid patients?

Actual evidence provided in post to support any of the claims therein - zero.

You can't even keep your story straight. This is what happens when you don't anchor it to facts or evidence.

On what basis could they update the approval? They couldn't run a comparitive trial given that vaccines were rolled out and it would be unethical to withhold a vaccine already deemed effective from a group just to create a control. There would be no real world benefit to such a sideshow.

You are very unfamiliar with the term "off-label" ... if a drug is licenced for one condition, with enough supporting evidence it can be used for another condition without re-licencing

prime example is anti-histamines being used for morning sickness prevention... or in COVID's case, a vaccination used for one strain, which has beneficial results against another.

incorrect, and you can find numerous examples of this in Cancer treatments, where the majority are under conditional marketing

Retevmo is an example drug who's use case keeps expanding with time..

Please research this yourself, it's getting tiresome this playing dumb act, and trying to out pedantic people

edit: EMA additional monitoring list.... its par for course that a cancer drug gets approved for one treatment and is trialled on other cancers

List of medicinal products under additional monitoring (europa.eu)

Currently 370+ drugs on the list for various conditions

edit 2: Retevmo was initially a thyroid cancer treatment, specifically for use in cancers with RET mutations.... since then it's conditional approval has expanded to other common RET cancers(e.g. Lung) ... it is being studied off label for other cancers such as salivary gland and breast cancer, which will be added to the conditional list if results are favourable....

If you even did a tiny bit of research, you'd understand this.