This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

unkel · 21-07-2022 04:34PM

Don't you know what way this usually works in Ireland? 😂 The old dumb ones stay roughly the same price. The new smart ones will go up in price, fueled by the subsidy now free for all, you don't even need to own an EV to get your free €600. What a waste of tax payers' money.

The Rolec sold today, BTW. Going to be installed in an office where there is 3ph electricity. The owner has a Tesla Model 3, so he will be able to charge at 11kW (3ph, 16A). Mostly from his big solar PV array as he is currently just exporting to the grid with no payment for it.

the_amazing_raisin · 21-07-2022 07:35PM

I don't see the price going down on anything in this economy 😬

I think unkel called it, they'll stay static in price, if you can even get one

I've noticed the QuBEV charger seems to be unavailable now, I wonder has the market dropped out for dumb chargers

unkel · 21-07-2022 08:25PM

I've sold two dumb car charge points in the last two months, both sold for €220. Can't really get them much cheaper than that.

ELM327 · 22-07-2022 03:01PM

Back to bargains!

Heres my 172 ioniq 28. Best offer so far from online we buy any car places is €16500, anyone interested here?

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unkel · 22-07-2022 05:32PM

Met a fella (boards regular) today who asked me for advice on buying an EV with that sort of budget, I of course recommended him an Ioniq. Then I saw your post here, so I just gave him a call with a heads up about your car

Best of luck with the sale!

TheWonderLlama · 28-07-2022 02:55PM

just wondering what would the battery pack go for in one of these?

https://www.naughtonsdismantlers.com/vehicles-details/313547/2018-TESLA-MODELX-X100DP20B6T-5DR-AUTO

TheWonderLlama · 28-07-2022 03:10PM

amaziongly, the battery still seems to work as it powered up the dash and central console. Was thinking about a home energy storage solution.

unkel · 28-07-2022 03:16PM

Give them a ring and let us know. My guess is: silly big money for the battery alone and people are fighting each other trying to buy it. Last time I looked a single 5kWh Tesla battery module went for about €1000 on eBay. That car has about 20 of them iirc

For your home power wall, it's cheaper and safer to build your own one from LiFePO4 CALB cells from China. Under no circumstances should you use a power wall made from cells from that Tesla - or from any other EV for that matter - inside your home.

unkel · 28-07-2022 04:35PM

So I did. €18k for the battery and open to serious offers. I doubt he'll refuse €14k if you waved it in cash in front of him. Which would be a reasonable buy. Or buy the whole car if you were planning to convert a serious sports car like a Ferrari or Porsche to EV. Use the inverter and one or both motors too and various other stuff.

Laviski · 28-07-2022 05:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119399899#Comment_119399899

unless you have installed the dedicated tesla powerwall..??? i'm some folk have got it or looked into it.

unkel · 28-07-2022 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119400348#Comment_119400348

That would be some powerwall 😁

Most people with official SEAI grant installs have 2.5kWh or 5kWh. My own one is 20kWh as have a few others here on boards. Not too many will have one that's 100kWh 😎

Laviski · 28-07-2022 10:29PM

referring to https://www.tesla.com/en_ie/powerwall

not taking batteries from the car itself, hence the dedicated version

TheWonderLlama · 29-07-2022 11:26AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh8E42mw21M

interesting build. I know, i know, won't work in ireland, safety issues, yada yada, just thought it's interesting.

slave1 · 29-07-2022 11:35AM

This would work in Ireland, just off grid is all.

If I was going new build in Ireland it would be passive and I would have three inverters with 6 strings and 60kWh-100kWh batteries with high c output and off grid.

unkel · 29-07-2022 12:10PM

Pretty simple build typical for a large or often used campervan / RV. You'd need a much more beefed up system for an off grid home.

And of course it would work in Ireland, what makes you think it won't? It's also fully off grid, so no recs apply / no sparks needed to install or sign off. Personally I wouldn't have Tesla battery modules or any other non-LiFePO4 / Li2TiO3 chemistry inside the place I would live or sleep...

andyr24 · 31-07-2022 05:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119373385#Comment_119373385

Is this still available?

Father in law going looking at one tomorrow

ELM327 · 31-07-2022 08:39PM

Hi Andy sorry I’m not on here when I’m not in work just saw your pm there. Thanks to unkel for giving me the heads up! Car is available, like I say I’m not actively selling it on DoneDeal or anything just mentioning it here.

will reply in pm

TitianGerm · 02-08-2022 07:05PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/reva-i-gwizz-electric-car-/31755210

Bargain for Unkel?

Gumbo · 02-08-2022 07:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119420873#Comment_119420873

We have to stop tagging him here. Leave some EV’s for the rest of us 🤣🤣

slave1 · 02-08-2022 08:04PM

He's welcome to it!!!

Redfox25 · 02-08-2022 08:08PM

If you zoom in on the windscreen, you can see his reflection.

unkel · 02-08-2022 09:07PM

Someone sent me the link to that last week. It's far from a bargain at that money. The sh1tty old lead acids would have to go and replaced with lithium. There is not a hope the car will do anywhere near 60km on the lead acids. Their capacity when brand new is under 10kWh, of which only half is usable. A non-runner / one with a dead lead acid battery would pique my interest at a few hundred quid alright.

ELM327 · 03-08-2022 09:04AM

I was considering that one too. You'd need to refit lead acid batteries to get the range back to new. If you want to talk about batteries needing replacement etc and all the crap that people come out with about EVs then it was actually true for the g whizz.

PS Ioniq is still available if anyone is interested.

unkel · 03-08-2022 09:11AM

You'd be a fool to fit new lead acids! Waste of money that you will never get back anywhere near what you paid for them. At least if you stick in some LiFePO4, you could always take them out and sell them on for good money (or use them in a different project). Personally I'd probably stick in 16 CALB 200Ah. I bought 32 of them recently which set me back €2300 incl shipping to give you an idea of cost

03-08-2022 09:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119421160#Comment_119421160

"Reva" in Finnish slang means lady bits. A suitable name for this vehicle in my opinion.

unkel · 03-08-2022 09:13AM

And I presume G-wiz means G-spot in Finnish? 😂

03-08-2022 10:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422697#Comment_119422697

It sounds more like an implement finding one.

kaahooters · 09-08-2022 09:22AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2015-renault-zoe/31865355

this looks awfully suspicious.

ELM327 · 09-08-2022 09:57AM

I saw that. If I had to guess (without seeing the car etc) I'd say someone didnt pay the battery lease and the car was blocked?

unkel · 09-08-2022 09:58AM

Not necessarily suspicious. But the battery lease that applies to all of these (when new) complicates things. The new owner will be responsible for keeping up the lease payments. Unless the seller can prove that they own the battery outright. With a letter from Renault Finance (RCI Financial Services Limited). I have such a letter myself for my battery owned Renault Fluence

That said, if it has battery lease, the battery should be fixed under warranty, so maybe it is battery owned after all

But even if it was battery owned, I wouldn't pay anywhere near €3k for it

This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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