Brian Dowling and Arthur Gourounlian expecting first baby.

It is what it is but what happens if something does not go to plan. Regulation is needed badly.

Of course you are not framing this in anyway as to suggest such appalling behaviour is the preserve of gay couples.

That would be ...silly.

I'm shocked at the amount of thanks the opening post doesn't have

I'm not against surrogacy, but I am against commercial surrogacy (especially international, for various reasons). Pretending that a child is actually the child of the commissioning parents is depriving the child of the right to know who they are. It's no better than the situation in mother ad baby homes where children were taken from their mothers to be adopted. I think that we need to learn from the past, and record on a child's birth cert the child's legal parents, their genetic parents and their gestational carrier. For cases where there only two parents involved (which is the majority of births in this country), we can reduce those to "Mother" and "Father."

I also don't think that there should be any anonymous donation allowed. It is very important for any child to be able to find out the details of their genetic families' medical history.

While surrogacy advocates keep saying that Ireland is behind Europe in legislating for surrogacy, they conveniently neglect to mention that in most of Europe surrogacy is completely illegal, that if you try to apply for e.g. Italian citizenship for a child born of a surrogate you can end up fined €1m and spending 3 years in prison, that in Greece the approval of the court is required prior to any implantation, and that it is only available to single women or heterosexual couples. There is no EU country in which commercial surrogacy is legal (in fact, article 3, 2c of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union can be interpreted as being an EU-Wide ban on commercial surrogacy.) We shouldn't be legislating to infringe on the rights of women in non-EU countries that are considered non-violable inside the EU.

expecting.

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Do RTE think making a documentary about this will encourage people to pay a licence fee?

I believe it will prove the opposite....

I would literally pay money to not watch this....

I guess because when it boils down to it, most people think it's absolutely disgusting. The only people who seem to think this is ok are the media.

I'd hang this more on RTE than them tbh. It's so stereotypical of RTE to make this kind of doc, in these times.

Their careers like all z celebs depend on being promoted, constantly in the media. You go out of the limelight and that's it, forgotten very fast. It prolly wasn't their idea.