BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP

Penn · 06-07-2022 10:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297462#Comment_119297462

It really has become a situation where the time to resign with dignity has passed. Then he circled round to it again and it passed again. Then he crashed into it, reversed, and just carried on again. Every time that the opportunity to resign with dignity has come up, he's just barrelled on past it.

Irelandsnumberone · 06-07-2022 10:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297455#Comment_119297455

Does Boris answer questions in that or do what our own Govt do here and spin not answering any direct questions?

joseywhales · 06-07-2022 10:33AM

I mean I don't want him to resign at this stage, I want to get my ticket to the circus and see the wonder of the year, the man with the world's thickest neck, come one come all and watch in horror or in glee at the skin so thick as to saddle a horse, from the man who can't even tell which of his narratives are fiction anymore.

Patser · 06-07-2022 10:34AM

One thing this will highlight is the UK's lack of a constitution or mechanism to remove a Prime Minister gone rogue. For centuries you've had a situation of sensible people that bowed to the inevitable, even if it had to be pointed out to them. But with someone as shameless as Johnson, what do you do?

The 1922 Committee had their chance, but will now have to go scrambling about changing their own rules to get rid of him, and the Monarchy - supposedly the higher power- will do nothing.

I'm just holding of for a Capitol building moment, when Johnson supporters storm Buckingham Palace, led by Dorries and Rees-Mogg, convinced Lizzie can re-instate Johnson

VinLieger · 06-07-2022 10:40AM

16, Victoria Atkins, another minister of state this time from the justice department is gone.

20 minutes till PMQs im putting my money on 2 more gone before it starts

06-07-2022 11:02AM

Incredible - he's not going anywhere.

Loafing Oaf · 06-07-2022 11:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297548#Comment_119297548

I'm just holding of for a Capitol building moment, when Johnson supporters storm Buckingham Palace, led by Dorries and Rees-Mogg, convinced Lizzie can re-instate Johnson

I'm thinking more of this classic scene from Oliver Stone's Nixon, which I dearly hope happened in real life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s62PeTxELL4

NIXON
		(back to Haig, bitterly)
	Fire him.

		HAIG
	Who?

		NIXON
	Cox!  Fire him.

		HAIG
	But he works for the Attorney General.
	Only Richardson can fire him.

		BUZHARDT
		(concerned)
	Sir, if I may ... echo my concern ...

		NIXON
		(ignoring Buzhardt, to Haig)
	Then tell Richardson to fire him.

		HAIG
	Richardson won't do that.  He'll
	resign.

		NIXON
	The hell he will!  Fire him, too.  If
	you have to go all the way down to the
	janitor at the Justice Department,
	fire the sonofabitch!

VinLieger · 06-07-2022 11:09AM

Unimpressed with Starmer tbh, he should be going far harder, he keeps trying to box him in as if hes on the witness stand but we know boris will ignore, obfuscate and outright lie about everything put to him in that way.

ancapailldorcha · 06-07-2022 11:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297735#Comment_119297735

It suits them to keep the bloated parasite hanging on for as long as possible.

Quin_Dub · 06-07-2022 11:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297462#Comment_119297462

Dignity??

From this guy?

That ship called dignity has sailed , struck an iceberg and sank a long long time ago.

The article that I lifted the above picture from is an interesting read , written as it was in 2012. Written by Quentin Letts , a long time friend and colleague of Boris

Lots of chat about how Boris was a man of the people blah blah blah , but tellingly the last line of the article is this.

Boris is not a Prime Minister. We — and he — would do well to acknowledge that now before any more nonsense is spoken.

Leroy42 · 06-07-2022 11:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297548#Comment_119297548

Is there not a 'vote of confidence' type thing in the UK? That would allow the chamber, which is who votes for the PM in the 1st place, to give their saw. Then all the resigning Tories simply side with the opposition and the PM is gone.

retalivity · 06-07-2022 11:15AM

Think Starmer is getting some good digs in here tbh.

06-07-2022 11:17AM

BoJo making another tool of himself on PMQ's. Classic old school deflection from the PM and quite dismissive of the sexual harassment claims that Sir Keir raised. How could anyone from his fawning media friends, to his political colleagues and the wider British public could defend this horrible man.

leahyl · 06-07-2022 11:18AM

He is such a bad speaker!

Quin_Dub · 06-07-2022 11:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297756#Comment_119297756

Would that not collapse the Government and not just Johnson?

The Tories will want to try and get out of this without an Election so they'll fudge their internal rules and kick him out in the next few weeks.

06-07-2022 11:24AM

Is there any front runner to succeed who would keep his policy on the protocol? Maybe that dose truss but she was pro staying in the EU before the referendum so she would change position without a thought.

06-07-2022 11:29AM

Why did he appoint Pincher?

Whips to rebellious Tories: “Vote with the govt or else”

MP: or what

Whips: “we’ll send Pincher around”

MP: No no no Sweet Jesus anything but the Pincher

Akrasia · 06-07-2022 11:34AM

The saddest thing is most of these Torys who are resigning en masse today because they cannot support Johnson's government, would likely vote confidence in that government to avoid a general election

They do not have any spine

Podge_irl · 06-07-2022 11:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297735#Comment_119297735

What do you expect him to do? There is not much point trying to play him at his game, but he is very clearly highlighting how deeply flawed Johnson is as a man and a Prime Minister.

ancapailldorcha · 06-07-2022 11:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297857#Comment_119297857

It's the inevitable consequence of the corrupt capitalism they've been peddling since Thatcher. Everything is about the self and material gain. There is no duty to one's country, no religion but the pound and no greater cause that denuding the state for parts to sell off to one's friends.

Another poster put it well in that the country that invented the tank is now unable to actually make one.

Itssoeasy · 06-07-2022 11:42AM

It’ll be interesting if Javid or Sunak do a Geoffrey howe(as in make a statement to the commons) and put the boot in.

LuckyLloyd · 06-07-2022 11:42AM

Starmer is deeply unimpressive. Yeah he lands some blows, but he's had Johnson across from him for well over a year without a leg to stand on and failed to pin him down conclusively even once.

Quin_Dub · 06-07-2022 11:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297857#Comment_119297857

Absolutely true - To be fair a large number of them would be voting themselves out of a job if there were to be an Election on foot of all this.

Tories would lose 60+ seats in a GE this summer.

BonnieSituation · 06-07-2022 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297503#Comment_119297503

Just like when Dan resigned instead of Hugh Abbot.

ancapailldorcha · 06-07-2022 11:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297892#Comment_119297892

As Napoleon said, it's unwise to interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake. I can wait for a Starmer premiership. We're watching Johnson undo years of detoxification by Cameron in a matter of months. It's almost impressive.

TP4725 · 06-07-2022 11:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297756#Comment_119297756

The House of Commons does not vote for or appoint the PM. PM is appointed by the monarch...in theory Monarch could dismiss PM but has not happened in modern times and not a realistic prospect currently

06-07-2022 11:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297892#Comment_119297892

Starmer is deeply unpopular within the Labour party, it is a daily battle for him to get his policies adopted. He is ineffective in opposition because he believes that his path to power is to be Tory light. It isn't working in the poles but he is to committed to this strategy to change. He is not going to be leading the Labour party to victory whatever he does.

06-07-2022 11:51AM

Powerful stuff from the former health secretary Sajid Javid in his personal statement in the House of Commons.

joseywhales · 06-07-2022 11:54AM

How is sajid javid a conservative, he's far too human. Felt the same about Rory Stewart, basically the conservatives are willing to sacrifice all of their decent mps to support people like Johnson Patel gove

ArmaniJeanss · 06-07-2022 11:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119297892#Comment_119297892

Starmer could ask the most devastating question, phrased and delivered to perfection - and Johnson could just reply 'people of this country more interested in looking forward, record spending, job creation we wouldn't get under your lot, supported Corbyn, wibble, wibble, you'd try stop Brexit, something in Latin'.

It's the system's fault whereby the Speaker can't/doesn't intervene and point out that the question asked wasn't answered in any way.

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BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP